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    Anti E and PCT Confirmation - for First Cycle

    Moving closer to PCT and wanted to make sure all my ducks are in a row. I also want to make sure my Anti-E strategy is not overboard.

    This is my first cycle and I am also concerned with PCT due to my age. I am 37 years old.

    Current Cycle:

    Weeks 1-13 500mgs Test C (Shot 2 times per week)
    Weeks 8-start of PCT 60mgs Var ED
    Weeks 7-12 60mgs Tren A

    Anti E Strategy:

    Weeks 1-8 10mgs Nolva ED
    Weeks 9-13 20mgs Nolva ED
    Weeks 1-6 25 mgs Proviron ED
    Weeks 7-13 50 mgs Proviron ED
    Weeks 7-13 1.25 mgs Letro ED
    Weeks 7-12 .25mgs Cabergoline E/3.5 days


    PCT (starts 17 days after Last Test C injection):

    Day 1 300mgs Clomid
    Weeks 1-2 100mgs Clomid
    Weeks 3-4 50mgs Clomid

    I have plenty of Nolva, Proviron, Letro and Arimidex . Not sure if I need to or how to incorporate them into PCT. Especially since I added the Fina to the cycle. I also have HCG available if that would ease or help the PCT recovery.

    How bad is the PCT going to be?

    I really appreciate responses.

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    At the most I would just do 50mgs of proviron while on. Leave the nolva for pct. Novice should not do tren . Just do the test.

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    if i was you id use some nolva in pct, the cycle itself seems fine, id possibly run the tren a bit longer and higher, but thats just me

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    At the most I would just do 50mgs of proviron while on. Leave the nolva for pct. Novice should not do tren. Just do the test.

    I am already into my cycle. And I am using Tren .

    I know that it is not usually for Novices, but everything was going great and I wanted to give it a try. I am happy that I did.

    I guess then the Clomid PCT is sufficient but I should add Nolva into the mix. I am thinking 20mgs ED.

    Do I continue taking the Nolva/Proviron /Letro after Last injection or wait until PCT altogether?

    Thanks.

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    No. I would take proviron while on and nolva and clomid in pct.

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    You dont need "Nolva/Proviron /Letro" all at once. Just stick with the Nolva, unless you have some already existing gyno issues?

    Run the Nolva 20mg/ED through-out PCT aswell. Also include the Clomid.

    I would really stay clear of the Tren for a 1st cycle!

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    I am already well into the Tren portion of this cycle. I am about 3.5 weeks away from my final injection and 2.5 weeks away from my Final Tren shot.

    The reason I was taking the Letro was because I was bloating a fair bit and it was really bothering me. I wear a suit to work and it was very difficult for any of my clothes to fit. The Letro really eliminated the bloat.

    I was taking the Nolva because I was scared of gyno and did not want to risk it. The proviron was because it was readily available and it helped with the Wood and would also reduce the bloat (it did for awhile, then I had to add the Letro).

    So do I continue taking the Nolva after final injection. I will definately start dropping the Clomid 17 days after last injection.

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    Considering your age and that you ran the test for longer than 12 weeks, I would do some HCG ... JMO. People have varying opinions on HCG vs. length of cycle though...

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    So do I continue taking the Nolva after final injection. I will definately start dropping the Clomid 17 days after last injection.[/QUOTE]



    Yes.

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    I have the HCG and was thinking the same thing. Will the HCG make the recovery a bit easier or will it just make sure that I recover?

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    confilicting reports. imo, hcg just delays the crash.

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    proviron is a steroid !!! it helps gain and makes you hard rock!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    confilicting reports. imo, hcg just delays the crash.

    Not sure what you mean that HCG will delay the crash. Not sure what you mean by this. How can HCG used in PCT delay the crash?

    Sorry to be thick.

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    Bump.

    Will HCG make PCT easier? Or will it simply ensure that recovery will happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tempbrit
    Bump.

    Will HCG make PCT easier? Or will it simply ensure that recovery will happen?

    Sorry didnt see your post. The reports are all over the place. When I said HCG will delay the crash, that is from personal experience. I used in pct and after is when the big decline hit. I would rather use clen /clomid/nolva in pct. I am sure there are other opinions.

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    Thanks buddy for all of the information.

    I appreciate it.

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    No problem Temp.

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