First Cycle Which One?????

[asianprince786]

hey guys havin a hard time pickin my first cycle i am 21 been training for about 4-5 years not my height is 5"11 and weight is 180lbs what cycle would u recommend out of these 2 for a 1st cycle. i dont mind if i gain a little fat but i would like to put on mass and be able to keep it.

1st cycle

Week 1-4: Dianabol – 30mg daily
Week 1-10: Test C – 400mg weekly
Week 1-10: Novladex – 20mg daily
Week 9-11: HCG - 1000iu weekly
Week 10-12: Clomid – 50mg daily

2nd cycle

week 1-12 Test C - 600mg weely
week 1 - 14 novladex - 20mg daily
week 14 -16 clomid - 70mg daily



which cycle is more effective, will give me more mass and is more likely to be retainable after disconnection.

[smokethedays]

cycle oe is better of course cause d-bol will jump start ur cycle, but u should start HCG should start @ week 12 since the Test half life is a bout 2 weeks, therefore, there is no point starting HCG at week 9 cause ur system will be still reading Androgen overload and won't start it's natural production yet.

[asianprince786]

cycle oe is better of course cause d-bol will jump start ur cycle, but u should start HCG should start @ week 12 since the Test half life is a bout 2 weeks, therefore, there is no point starting HCG at week 9 cause ur system will be still reading Androgen overload and won't start it's natural production yet.

ok thnak you bro is hgc required is it necessary some others on this website dont think so what you think?

[chest6]

hcg is the sh** man it restores natural test in no time..that stuff works like a charm I would def. keep that in there...Doing some during the cycle is helpful it you dont want peanut balls IMO

And I dont like the 2nd cycle at all

[Nelstar]

see if you can get your hands on some deca hit it like 400mg a week add that in there youd like those results on cycle 1.

deca with its longer esters might throw off your pct a week or two

read up on it

[chest6]

And my post before applies more if you use deca it shuts u down hard..just up to you

[topvega]

1st one looks better...