new cycle please critique

**tden0923** · 06-14-2005, 09:06 AM

I have been training 10 years naturally and I am sick of it. Seen many sites promoting deca / test, d-bol 10 week cycle to start. Ending with a 3 week pct. Nolvadex throughout the whole thing. Pyramiding the deca from 200-400, and the test (enanthate by the way) 300-500. d-bol 30 mg a day first 4 weeks. I've been told to stay away from the orals though. That amount shouldn't be too hard on my liver should it? How often should I be injecting? Once a week for both the deca the test? Is this cycle enough? would be nice to gain 25 lbs and keep 15. Main concerns: infertililty, heart problems. Am I over reacting? I know it's only one cycle but I will probably do more depending on how this one works out. Feedback and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

***JohnnyB*** · 06-14-2005, 10:50 AM

That cycle is overkill for a forst cycle, all you need is test at 500mg a week

JohnnyB

**Booz** · 06-14-2005, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

That cycle is overkill for a forst cycle, all you need is test at 500mg a week

JohnnyB

agree,mate do some research on this site before you take anything,you will be thankfull that you did.

**DCL** · 06-14-2005, 01:47 PM

no need to pyramid.. keep test levels consistant...less sides!

**hellapimpin** · 06-14-2005, 02:14 PM

yea first cycle do this

weeks 1-10 or 12 test e or cyp 500mg a week
2 injections a week , 3.5 days apart. mon and thurs would be example
run nolva everyday at either 10mg or 20mg
get clomid for post cycle therapy and run it for 3 weeks 100/50

no need for dbol , your going to gain just as much probably
no need to pyramid, those are out to date
just a constant dose of test will keep levels constant
besides pyramiding is oldschool, was how people tried to come off of cycle easier
but now there are more ways to pct

just eat right and train hard and 25 - 30lbs can be reached and keep 18 to 22 depending on how hard you train during pct also.

**tden0923** · 06-14-2005, 04:47 PM

I got this cycle off this site. It was under novice cycles. You think it is too much for a beginner?

**nomore1324** · 06-14-2005, 06:48 PM

agree with the bros. no need to run deca and dbol first cycle... its overkill you just dont need it man. use test @ 500mg a week and i think you will be very please with the results.