My first cycle, need advice

**jsingh** · 06-23-2005, 01:01 AM

I want to begin my first cycle, here is what i have 180 10mg tabs winny, 5 250ml amps testoviron depot, 15 tabs nolvadex . i know the testoviron depot isnt much but im happy with it. I plan to shoot once a week, i.e 5 week cycle.

I need to know when in the cycle should take the winny, during being everyday, or sometime near the end/beginning?? planning on 5 a day = 50mg

What more do i need for PCT? How much and how long after ?

**smokethedays** · 06-23-2005, 01:43 AM

i won't start this cycle, get some more gear bro

**UK CHRIS** · 06-23-2005, 03:19 AM

You cant put a cycle together with what you have mate and a five weeker will do you no good whatsoever.

**USN DV** · 06-23-2005, 03:22 AM

What is your goal?

RA · 06-23-2005, 06:08 AM

Not a good idea. Save it and get more.

**Booz** · 06-23-2005, 10:06 AM

5 week cycle of test mate in a word waste of time,do some research and get some more test.

**longhorn814** · 06-23-2005, 10:10 AM

you need to get more gear, esp the test. You will little if any results from only 5 weeks. Test takes 4-5 weeks to kick in so you'll just be wasting gear.

**jsingh** · 06-23-2005, 11:09 AM

Is the winny enough to run on its own? My goal is to bulk up, gain an extra 5-10 lbs, and reach 200lbs.

**sasquatch** · 06-23-2005, 11:20 AM

Winny alone isnt going to do much to bulk you up. It might increase strength and make your muscles harder, and it's more effective if you have low BF% to begin with. But winny alone is not recommended for bulking or gaining weight.
Just eat a lot bro, and stock up more so you can eventually do a good cycle with a test base.

**jsingh** · 06-24-2005, 01:53 AM

thankyou for all the replies. I plan to get more test, my qn is once i have it how often and how much should i be shooting? and where would the 5 tabs of winny fit in, and throughout the day when should the 5 be taken?? thankyou

**Charged_UP** · 06-24-2005, 02:05 AM

If u take ur original stack i think that it would work just as much as investing in just a jar of creatine. If u are going to do it at all, make sure to at least do it so that u are going to see some reasonable results, so many people tend to take a small cycle and then just go on to take a big cycle later. Ur not going to suddenly look like some huge body builder just from one cycle anyway. U need at least 10-15 ccs of the test and with a shot taken every 3-4 days, test should always be hit hard and fast. then just for an added little boost a bottle of deca which is at least is 200 mgs and long lasting so that can be taken every 5 days leaving u with a little left over at the end when ur androgens drop down.

**UK CHRIS** · 06-24-2005, 03:48 AM

Thats crap advice to give a newbie, I would go with 10-12 weeks of 400mg test enan or cyp /week slpit into two shots 3.5 days apart. Use nolvadex at 10mg/day throughout then research for proper pct. Save your orals and use as part of a second cycle mate.