can u take hcg while on clomid?

***Doc.Sust*** · 06-23-2005, 01:44 PM

i have used hcg before pct, is it possible or does anyone use hcg through pct?

RA · 06-23-2005, 01:46 PM

I did. It delayed the crash but didnt stop it. I only use hcg while on now.

**Booz** · 06-23-2005, 01:49 PM

you can use hcg between your last test shot up till you start clomid therapy.

RA · 06-23-2005, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by booz

you can use hcg between your last test shot up till you start clomid therapy.

What would you use for an anti e?

***Doc.Sust*** · 06-23-2005, 02:02 PM

so hcg during pct is bad? what would happen if you used it simultaneously with clomid? any negative or contradicting effects?

**Booz** · 06-23-2005, 02:05 PM

i use nolva mate run it as normal from the last test shot throughout pct,if im comin off a long cycle i use the hcg inbtween the last test shot till the start of clomid i dont run both together,just gives myself that little bit extra.

RA · 06-23-2005, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

so hcg during pct is bad? what would happen if you used it simultaneously with clomid? any negative or contradicting effects?

No problems running clomid and hcg both, I just did not run it the way booz said. If that actually works, I would give it a try.

***Doc.Sust*** · 06-23-2005, 02:17 PM

ok. thanks guys.

**Alpha-Male** · 06-23-2005, 02:19 PM

naw, wait til the profile forum's back up, or actually, i think it's mentioned in the edu threads somewhere...youre not supposed to run hcg and clomid at the same time...it's as mentioned, use it immediately after only up to the time you start clomid (and pref. nolva)...depending on what your running, adex or proviron during is best IMO

**Alpha-Male** · 06-23-2005, 02:20 PM

http://67.18.108.244//showthread.php?t=640

RA · 06-23-2005, 02:40 PM

I retract my earlier statements. If I had clomid and I wanted to throw in hcg I would do this:

last week of cycle: 300-500IU HCG total 2x week + 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 2: 300-500IU HCG total 2x week + 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 3: 300-500IU HCG total 2x week + 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 4: 20mg Nolvadex +100mgs clomid daily
Week 5: 20mg Nolvadex +100mgs clomid daily
Week 6: 20mg Nolvadex +50mgs clomid daily
Week 7: 20mg Nolvadex +50mgs clomid daily

**^val^** · 06-23-2005, 04:52 PM

Ditto what everybody else said. Using clomid along with HCG is a bad idea. When you're goind off cycle your main concern is to regain natural HPTA function as fast as possible to minimize muscle loss. HCG supresses your natural LH so in essence if you're taking HCG after cycle and until PCT you're practically still "on" cycle.
I think your best bet is to use HCG during the last weeks of cycle but not after.

**BlInDsIdE** · 06-23-2005, 05:32 PM

HCG suppresses natural test thats why its best used while your still on- IMO the best time is in the last weeks

**^val^** · 06-23-2005, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by BlInDsIdE

its best used while your still on- IMO the best time is in the last weeks

i think so too but...

Originally Posted by BlInDsIdE

HCG suppresses natural test

that statement is not quite true.
As i said in my previous post, hcg supresses the LH (Lieutinizing Hormone) but it raises the free physical testosterone levels by a method which bypassess the normal HPTA function. So what you gain with hcg is some natural test in order to help you make the transition to PCT, but the normal HPTA is not recovering in any way, shape or form.

just my 2 cents

**Nicky B** · 06-23-2005, 07:01 PM

A friend of mine does this and he finds it to be very effective. Takes 250iu's ed for last 2weeks of cycle and stops the day before he starts his PCT with clomid.