Sus, eq, winny...good cutting cycle?

[broncojosh]

a buddy asked me to take a look at his cycle before he orders his stuff. He's looking at a cutting cycle, but wants to put on quality muscle mass. By the way, he's got a nice base and he's 23...well here's it is:
Sustanon 250 500mg/week
Equipose 400mg/week
winny 50mg/ed
clomid post cycle

Looks good to me, but wanted your opinion.

[4plates]

looks good to me too
sus 500 mg wk 1-10
eq 400 mg wk 1-10
winny 50 mg ed wk 7-13

[Tankass]

Looks good to me as well.

[broncojosh]

because of sus is fast acting, he see results faster than 3-4 weeks right? Well that's what i told him today...

[B-A-M-F]

man this is no where near a cutting cycle, the cycle looks goood but it is not a cutting cycle. he will deffinately gain some size off this one.

[broncojosh]

what kind of gains would he be looking at typically? He's 6'0" 230 at around 11%bf...first cycle by the way.

[Tankass]

Originally posted by B-A-M-F
man this is no where near a cutting cycle, the cycle looks goood but it is not a cutting cycle. he will deffinately gain some size off this one.

Why do you say that. Its Test/EQ/Winny that would qualify it as being a cutting cycle. I am curious why you say its no where near a cutting cycle...

[broncojosh]

bump

[broncojosh]

one more thing..what if he threw some dbol in there, that would make it a definate bulker, but how bad would that mess with his bf%. He doesn't want to put on fat weight

[4plates]

this is a nice cutting cycle if his diet is clean.
if he packs down the calories and fat it wouldnt be considered a cutter.
you can cut on basiclly any type of gear its the diet that determines which type of cycle it is

[broncojosh]

hey 4 plates, would it be a good idea for him to hit something like this:
1-4 dbol 50mg/ed
1-10 sus 500mg/week
1-10 eq 400mg/week
7-11 winny 50mg/ed
clomid

[4plates]

i know i said gear dosent decide which type of cycle it is but there are some exceptions,dbol is not one of the greatest choices for a cutting cycle since you do get an enormous bloat from it.
if he looking to kick start it use some prop for a few wks ed or eod
sus dosnt have instant effect,still 3-4 wks to see it start

[broncojosh]

His goal is to put on like 20 pounds, and tighten up...will this do it, minus the dbol, or should he be looking at something else?

[4plates]

isee no prob putting on 20 lbs of quality muscle from this cycle
from looking at your pic i can see you have what it take in the gym and i know youll keep his workout nothing less than extreme

[broncojosh]

He mentioned to me today that he was considering using test. suspension tabs for the first 4 weeks because they would be fast acting. I haven't really looked into test. susp. tabs. So it would look like this:
1-4 test. susp. tabs
1-10 eq 400/week
1-10 sus 500/week
7-13 winny 50/ed
clomid

What do you guys think?

[4plates]

i dont know too much on the tabs but why not inj. suspen or prop in the beginning.
bump for suspension tabs,anyone?

[Big Rush]

Bronco, I'm on that same cycle right now...starting week 6 tomorrow. I'm just starting to notice gains. Can't wait to start Winny...To answer your question, it's not really a good cutting cycle, IMO...but he could get some Clen to cut up with at the end of the cycle after he's bulked up.

It also depends on his metabolism, if he's naturally very lean, and takes something to get rid of that Sust bloat, it could turn out to be a good cutting cycle for him.

BTW, it's a phreakin' awesome cycle bro...

Peace..BR

[BIG_JDAWG]

i like the cyle so far..if he wants to kickstart it a bit, i would go with the prop...or if he's lookin for some strength without the weight gain, i like halo. it also tends to make the muscles more harder and denser. just something to think about, but overall, i like the cycle. he will see great results


Big J

[alter beast]

I have heard of people cutting with drol, so if he wants to use sust go for it, you can cut on it, its all about your diet and cardio bro.