pct after deca

**ando** · 06-25-2005, 07:13 AM

after a 12 week cycle of deca 200mg/week and and winny oral 25mg/day is any sorta pct needed? this is my first cycle

**TDS** · 06-25-2005, 07:23 AM

its recomended that u start pct after 2 wks from last deca inj.

**ando** · 06-25-2005, 07:34 AM

in the form of what? clomid?

**Booz** · 06-25-2005, 07:44 AM

no mate not 2 weeks it is 21 days after the last shot of deca !

**ant_8u** · 06-25-2005, 07:46 AM

PCT should be 3 weeks after last Deca shot

Clomid for 11 days @ 100mg
Then Clomid for 10 days @ 50mg
Nolvadex @ 20mg for 21 days

Have you started your cycle yet?

You really need to include some Test in it

Run Test for 1 week more than Deca

PCT starts 3 weeks after last Deca shot and 2 weeks after last Test shot

**Samson7** · 06-25-2005, 11:01 PM

what kind of gains did you see with your cycle?

**ACAZORES** · 06-25-2005, 11:03 PM

it is wiser to prevent your nuts from getting smaller during the cycle than to bring them back to life after the cycle, so a good plan is to use hcg during the cycle 500iu every 4 days, than clomid after the cycle.

**ando** · 06-27-2005, 09:04 PM

i havent started the cycle yet, just want to know beforehand what i'll need to do. that hcg idea sounds pretty good. ant 8u, do you use the nolvadex at the same time as the clomid?

**topvega** · 06-27-2005, 09:47 PM

get some test and build a cycle around it... that cycle u r gonna do is crap...

**ant_8u** · 06-28-2005, 06:00 AM

Yeah, run them both at the same time during PCT

Use Liquidex @ 0.5mg ED from the start of your cycle to the end of your PCT

This will stop water retention and the formation of titties!

**ando** · 06-28-2005, 07:40 AM

what sorta test would should i use?

**slooby** · 06-28-2005, 09:49 AM

Test E

**ando** · 06-29-2005, 01:11 AM

great, sounds good cheers guys. i think i'll actually try dianabol and deca . thanks for the advice.

**hellapimpin** · 06-29-2005, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by ando

great, sounds good cheers guys. i think i'll actually try dianabol and deca. thanks for the advice.

**Ntpadude** · 06-29-2005, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by TDS

its recomended that u start pct after 2 wks from last deca inj.

No that is way wrong and why so many deca PCT's fail. The deca is active in your body for approximately 3.5 to 4 weeks after last injection. This is how long you are supposed to wait before beginning 10 to 14 days of clomid therapy.

**Ntpadude** · 06-29-2005, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by ando

great, sounds good cheers guys. i think i'll actually try dianabol and deca. thanks for the advice.

Yea but you cannot run dianabol for the full 12 weeks like the deca . There is actually a science to why you want to run test e or test cyp with deca and not winny. Winny will fight the deca trying to do the exact opposite. Test and deca counteract each other's side effects and also have a super synergistic effect of helping each other give you maximum muscle growth, and also the 2 combined cause natural increases in your growth hormone production giving you outstanding keepability of muscle gains. Your best bet would be to run deca for 12 weeks but run the test cyp for 14 weeks, then go on clomid at the 16th week. No need to run HCG , no need to fear and kinda of bloating, sexual difficulty or side effects, recovery will come as easy as with anything followng this method.

**The Baron** · 06-29-2005, 01:19 PM

Good answer from mtpadude. Read and heed.

running a cycle without test is a bad idea. It has been done. Some guys will tell you they got good results. I haven't seen this in person so I can't vouch for that. I have seen guys try that, and waste their time and money, making poor gains and losing them, and suffering the notorious side effects. Well, some guys just can't be talked out of it, I guess, just like the guys who want to do all-oral cycles. If you disregard the good advice you have recieved, DO use hcg all the way through, 250 to 500iu E3d or E4D. You will need it if you do deca without test.