Ghb?????????

**panther** · 04-19-2002, 09:19 PM

Any know if there is a shelf life for ghb? I have a bottle of butanediol AKA- GHB, its at least 1 1/2 years old. Not sure if its still good. Any advice?????????

**G-PIG** · 04-21-2002, 03:37 AM

send it too me

**Exocet** · 05-22-2002, 02:48 PM

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I should point out that 1,4 Butanediol is *not* GHB by itself.

GHB falls into 2 categories: Na-GHB (made with sodium hydroxide) and K-GHB (made with potassium hydroxide). These chemicals are reacted with gamma butrylactone (GBL) to get the end product of either Na-GHB, or K-GHB. 'On the street', the reference to Na- and K- are usually dropped.. they're silent, if you will

However! When ingested, 1,4 Butanediol does indeed convert into GHB in your body. Sorry, no idea on the shelf life.

**jbrand** · 05-22-2002, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Exocet
Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I should point out that 1,4 Butanediol is *not* GHB by itself.

GHB falls into 2 categories: Na-GHB (made with sodium hydroxide) and K-GHB (made with potassium hydroxide). These chemicals are reacted with gamma butrylactone (GBL) to get the end product of either Na-GHB, or K-GHB. 'On the street', the reference to Na- and K- are usually dropped.. they're silent, if you will

Try remaining silent when drinking potassium

**big N** · 05-22-2002, 03:05 PM

u beat me to it exocet,alot of people confuse the real deal with that or gbl wich is um pretty good for removing paint or burning a whole in your jeans.

**Exocet** · 05-22-2002, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by big N
u beat me to it exocet,alot of people confuse the real deal with that or gbl wich is um pretty good for removing paint or burning a whole in your jeans.

Absolutely. If you're going to deal with GBL, make sure it is stored in a HDPE (high density polyethylene) bottle. It too will convert into GHB when ingested, but dosing can be a little scary. For some, one teaspoon is just right - for others it means an early bedtime.

**big N** · 05-22-2002, 03:52 PM

not only thay b ut the conversion of gbl into ghb is very liver toxic,when the ghb is alre4ady ghb and it converts into water and carbon wich is what your body is made of.not to mention the ephoria feeling is a lot smoother and better then the gbl.