stanazol ??

**outlaw55** · 07-01-2005, 01:45 PM

ok guys i'm new to the forum and the info is great, but there is so much of it it is hard to filter. I have heard great things about var. I have never taken oral, only injections. would i get the same hardness and leaness if i took only stanazol shots? I have been back training now for 3 months from a year off due to knee surgery. it is hot and i feel fat! I do cardio 4 times a week and have lost about 25 lbs. I am 5 9 and 210 i want to be shredded. I use to train for size and strength and have weighed as much as 250. since my injury i want different. i want to keep size and dramatically change my fat percent. I have yaken tren and stan before and had some success, but i think the tren is to strong for me for i seemed to have a lot of emotional ups and downs and bouts with depression. please give me opinions as to my situation and any experiances like this. I want to know when is a good time to go on something and what.

**ninthprince22** · 07-01-2005, 01:51 PM

honestly, test is probaly the best cutter and mass giver when used properly with a outstanding diet and workout. i would take test and winny depot to see great results. if u dont wanna take winny, have u thought about clen ?

**outlaw55** · 07-01-2005, 01:57 PM

test suspention? and i have heard of clenbuteral but don't know much about it.if it helps i'm not one much for anything that raises heart rate to the point of anxiety. for i have some issue with this already.

**QuieTSToRM33** · 07-01-2005, 04:24 PM

go with prop ... lean gains as long as u train right and have a clean diet

**longhorn814** · 07-01-2005, 04:27 PM

go with prop and winny or prop and var. Either of those should cut you up and help preserve LBM as long as your diet is good

**Booz** · 07-01-2005, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

go with prop ... lean gains as long as u train right and have a clean diet

yeah go with prop f*dk the suspention too many jabs mate.

**russia dog** · 07-02-2005, 03:44 AM

is 50 ed prop sufficient eough to build muscle and least side?

**QuieTSToRM33** · 07-02-2005, 03:46 AM

for a beginner ... 50 mg ED should suffice

**Charged_UP** · 07-02-2005, 03:54 AM

I agree with the prop maybe spike it up to 100mg, im always a fan of nice doses. Diet is the key, and forget clen . It is just another product that does more harm than good. Var would be sweet to add for u have nothing to worry about almost with that except the price. I also would think if ur knee is a little messed up still theraputic doses of deca will help with any joint related problems while u are recovering still.

**russia dog** · 07-02-2005, 04:13 AM

prop wise 50ed and 75ed produce same result?
suppress hpta at the same rate?

500mg test e i bloated like a mother! and i was on proviron /nolva as well