first cycle question for an old guy

**ronster** · 07-01-2005, 08:18 PM

Week 1-4 dbol 30mg Everyday
week 1-11 test enanthate 500mg Every week
week 1-10 EQ (Deca ) 400mg Every week
Clomid Post Cycle (A Must)
Anit-e on hand or throughout cycle (A must)

Got the above sample cycle from the faq area.

About me: 40yrs old, 188lbs, 5'10", body fat ~22%? (If I lost 14lbs I'd be lean). Cardio workout 3x week, weight training 3-4x week. Been working out for 25+ years.

Seem to max out on muscle mass/strength at the same point, always. Trying to push past always leaves me injured.

Would like to try a cycle to see if I can add 10-15lbs of muscle and break through that barrier.

1. Don't want to screw around with my liver and from what I've read these past few days (since finding this site I've been getting quite an education), oral stuff tends to do that. Can this be dropped? Or is there an injectable that would make a suitable substitute?

2. Planning on injecting 2x week, just splitting the weekly dose in 1/2...sound right?

3. Clomid seems to be the post cycle choice of most? Any other recommendations?

4. Best anti-E to use (there seem to be to many choices)? This should be kept on hand in case of tender nipples...right? Otherwise, don't use.

Any suggestions/modifications would be appreciated.

Thanks
ronster

**jinos** · 07-01-2005, 09:33 PM

Hey ron, Go ahead and do the orals for frontloading. Just make sure to take milk thistle after to help your liver. For gyno nolva is good at 20mg a day or arimidex throughout the cycle. .25 to .50mg will do. Good luck.

**duke911** · 07-01-2005, 09:38 PM

Hey ronster you might want to check into tbol or var in your cycle. suppose to be light on your liver.
Tbol/Var Cycle Diary - First Cycle

**ronster** · 07-02-2005, 07:22 AM

duh,
just found the novice cycles (I,II,and III) on the home page on the left

all my questions answered...thanks to those who responded

sometimes what you're looking for is right in front of you

ron

**dtr98** · 07-02-2005, 10:52 PM

for your 1st cycle i'd just do the 500mg of test split 2x wk

**Booz** · 07-03-2005, 01:48 PM

yes i would also run test only,save the deca /eq for another cycle,use the dbol to jump the course though!

**Heracles74** · 07-03-2005, 01:50 PM

if your that concerned about your liver, drop the dbol ... it is only going to add water weight and give you some up front energy... I could do without it....and wait for the test to kick in... orals are always much touigher on your livere than an injectable.

Chlomid is good... gotta have some nolva bro