Tell me what do you prefer and why?
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Nolvadex
Clomid
Tell me what do you prefer and why?
whith which one do did you gain more and kept more?![]()
You can't compare the 2 really...they are used for different things
You cannot gain anything on them...
I'm sorry choice for what???? One is used to control estrogen and the other is used to restore testicular function.
Colmid is a very weak Anti-estrogen.
they are used for different things. this poll should read maybe something like:
Nolvadex Alone
or Nolvadex + Clomid
read up on SHlT bro.
From now on, everyone here at AR will be using Nolvadex instead of Clomid for PCT. We'll all be using letrozole for short-medium length cycles, and/or cutting cycles, and we will use Arimidex for all bulking cycles, and/or cycles over 12 weeks.
And thats final.
Originally Posted by hooker
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huh? im lost
Everyone repeat after me:
I will use Nolvadex instead of Clomid for PCT.
I ..... i am confused as to if this is a joke or not.
hooker dose not like clomid and only dose nolva pct
because of eye problem's i beleive
I've heard the same as you then.Originally Posted by stocky121
I also heard he's 8ft tall and weigh's 500lbs and eats little girls at night!
OH NO! @_@ lol
who needs eyes when u can lift like a god. :-p
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NO....look...you can get the same results off 20mgs of Nolvadex as you can from 150mgs of Clomid:
http://www.bodybuilding4life.com/for...2&postcount=27
And it's cheaper.
i take both along with some HCG. never lose anything
I don't know what to believe, who to listen to. Many people say clomid is a must.. I really don't look forward to clomid therapy after this cycle, but if something goes wrong with the pct and I'm not useing clomid people will blame that.. I'm under the impression that leaving out clomid will decrease the chances of acne so maybe I will go for nolva only..
Unless you have some sort of allergic reaction to the Clomid acne cannot be balmed on it. Acne, I believe, is caused by the inbalance of hormones, running up to and during PCT.Originally Posted by ace ventura
Nolva is a 3-4x stronger compound than clomid, less is required to achieve the same effects on LH. It improves lipid profiles. It doesn't affect eye sight. that is enough for me to use Nolva
Originally Posted by ace ventura
Well...I've always said that the good thing about my body of work is that it's not predicated on "believing me". You can always check my references and see if the pieces all fit....
If you do, you'll see that Nolvadex is a better option than Clomid.
Can this though, differ from user to user?Originally Posted by hooker
Someone said clomid acts faster than nolva in a earlier thread somewhere.. is that incorrect?
Hooker, do you think nolva will completely take over for clomid in the future? Is this info new to date and therefore will make clomid old fashion with time?
Also, since nolva is such a good thing, is it even better to do 40mgs/ed during pct?
Last edited by ace ventura; 07-12-2005 at 01:11 PM.
ya this poll thing is kinna messed up...nolva and clomid are pretty different....? I would use both in pct
The two are really very similar in structure. They have different uses in the medical community: tamoxifen is used as a treatment for breast cancer while clomid is used to help with fertility. In bodybuilding and in males the effect of these drugs is to stimulate the luteinizing hormone and restore natural testosterone production. They are both essentially weak estrogens, with nolva being the stronger of the two. from my point of view they are one and the same, with nolva being stronger and better.Originally Posted by chest6
clarify please? there is crazy debate about this, why no clomid?Originally Posted by hooker
Came across this post recently,Originally Posted by hooker
so Hooker, in YOUR opinion would up-ing the dose...say going to 40/60 mg per day of PCT in theory, be "more effective" in terms of compensating Clomid for Nolva?
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