bloodwork!? what u think

[IBdmfkr]

Just had BW done, here it is... *'s next to irregular levels, been off 3 months, started GH 4iu/day with PCT(clomid/HCG) Stopped clomid week before test, stopped tribulus 2 days before. Ran T3 a little during last few months but not within 2weeks of test 25mcg highest dosage. bout it. I'm 24 195 10-12%.
Anyone know what I need to do to get my levels back in check and would it be ok for me to start in 2 weeks test,tren,eq. thanks

Laboratory Results
Test Code Description Result Range Units
012047 A/G Ratio 1.7 1.1-2.5
001081 Albumin, Serum 4.3 3.5-5.5 g/dL
001107 Alk****e Phosphatase, Serum 55 25-150 IU/L
001545 ALT (SGPT) 68 0-55 IU/L ****
001123 AST (SGOT) 52 0-40 IU/L ****
015941 Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL
015156 Basos 0 0-3 %
001099 Bilirubin, Total 0.7 0.1-1.2 mg/dL
001040 BUN 20 5-26 mg/dL
011577 BUN/Creatinine Ratio 13 8-27
001016 Calcium, Serum 9.3 8.5-10.6 mg/dL
001578 Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 20-32 mmol/L
001206 Chloride, Serum 101 96-109 mmol/L
001065 Cholesterol, Total 165 100-199 mg/dL
012056 Comment SPRCS
001370 Creatinine, Serum 1.5 0.5-1.5 mg/dL
015149 Eos 3 0-7 %
015933 Eos (Absolute) 0.2 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL
144981 Free Testosterone(Direct) 4.5 9.3-26.5 pg/mL ****
001164 Free Thyroxine Index 1.1 1.2-4.9 ****
001958 GGT 14 0-65 IU/L
012039 Globulin, Total 2.5 1.5-4.5 g/dL
001032 Glucose, Serum 65 65-99 mg/dL
011817 HDL Cholesterol 25 40-59 mg/dL ****
005058 Hematocrit 48.5 36.0-50.0 %
015180 Hematology Comments:
005041 Hemoglobin 16.5 12.5-17.0 g/dL
001339 Iron, Serum 101 40-155 ug/dL
001115 LDH 214 100-250 IU/L
012054 LDL Cholesterol Calc 122 0-99 mg/dL ****
015123 Lymphs 23 14-46 %
015917 Lymphs (Absolute) 1.2 0.7-4.5 x10E3/uL
015073 MCH 28.4 27.0-34.0 pg
015081 MCHC 34.0 32.0-36.0 g/dL
015065 MCV 84 80-98 fL
015131 Monocytes 10 4-13 %
015925 Monocytes(Absolute) 0.5 0.1-1.0 x10E3/uL
015107 Neutrophils 64 40-74 %
015909 Neutrophils (Absolute) 3.3 1.8-7.8 x10E3/uL
001024 Phosphorus, Serum 4.1 2.5-4.5 mg/dL
015172 Platelets 180 140-415 x10E3/uL
001180 Potassium, Serum 4.1 3.5-5.5 mmol/L
001073 Protein, Total, Serum 6.8 6.0-8.5 g/dL
105007 RDW 14.3 11.7-15.0 %
005033 Red Blood Cell (RBC) Count 5.79 4.10-5.60 x10E6/uL
001198 Sodium, Serum 141 135-148 mmol/L
100065 T. Chol/HDL Ratio 6.6 0.0-5.0 ratio units
001156 T3 Uptake 37 24-39 %
004227 Testosterone, Serum 163 241-827 ng/dL ****
001149 Thyroxine (T4) 3.0 4.5-12.0 ug/dL ****
001172 Triglycerides 88 0-149 mg/dL
004259 TSH 1.069 0.350-5.500 uIU/mL
001057 Uric Acid, Serum 4.1 2.4-8.2 mg/dL
005025 White Blood Cell (WBC) Count 5.1 4.0-10.5 x10E3/uL

[JYZZA]

Not too bad from what I can see. I would stay off until your liver comes down to normal ranges. Take another test in 2 months and see how much it comes down. Your test is low but thats normal right now.
All I would do right now is eat and train.

[cantqwit]

hdl chol is pretty low, ldl a bit high. test seems a bit low. 2 mos after my last cycle i didnt run clomid but 4 days and jumped on trib for 2 weeks a month later it was 893. people are just different i guess.

[roger24]

stay off so your liver can recover a little.

[cantqwit]

liver isnt that high- but get on liv-52 and or milk thistle get it retested in about 1-2 months. then i would wait a bit longer and go from there.

[IBdmfkr]

Thanks for the advice, how much milkthistle should be taken/day in my case? and should you continue to run it through cycle? Thanks.. also any other natural herb or supplement to boost test levels, or should I take another 2 weeks of clomid? thanks again.

almost forgot, how bout thyroxine levels, can I take 12.5/25mcg/day of T3 to help stabilize because of the GH.

[anabolicbruce]

163ng for total test is very low for a 24 year old. Actually, that is low for a 40 year old. I wouldnt consider doing anything until your level is at least 400ng. Cenegenics Institute (Pioneers for age-managment medicine) has established optimal testosterone levels as 600-1000ng, this was through 15 years of research. I never cycle, til my natural test is 600ng!

[IBdmfkr]

good to know, what do you suggest to get it back up to that level?

[anabolicbruce]

Teslac and clomid for 4 weeks would be great. the problem is, teslac is expensive. At 163, you may be able to get a script which is covered through insurance. If not, run clomid and nolva for a few more weeks.

[IBdmfkr]

what do you think about tongkat ali? can you combine it with clomid?

[IBdmfkr]

bump, damn hits the bottem quick. any help?

[anabolicbruce]

what do you think about tongkat ali? can you combine it with clomid?

As for any over the counter supp., it is hard to determine the effectivness due to the lack of research and it hasnt been tested for the treatment it claims to provide. I would use clomid and nolva, if that is all you can get. Even low-dose HCG (500-1000iu bi-weekly) can provide therapy for low testosterone. There have been many studies done on the use of HCG to treat hypogonadism, even in young bodybuilders who have suppressed their levels. Ill try to dig them up.

[IBdmfkr]

Thanks for the info.. bout to start anyhow so I'll get BW done again when I come off... does anyone suggest to have BW done while on? if so during what weeks on a 16weeker.. thanks

[flex99]

ya dont worry about, alt and ast a little over but nothing to worry about ( probably elevated due to diet) , my blood tests were higher by a little, but i was not fasting so my ast and alt were kind of high due to high protein (protein passes through liver, thus liver enzymes will be high). i tested two days later and my results were PERFECT. make sure you take milk thistle, i think it helps.

[IBdmfkr]

thanks flex.. makes me feel alittle better.. yea they didn't look like they were way off so I wasn't too concerned but still curious.