Thread: How many cycles is too many????
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07-16-2005, 06:31 PM #1
How many cycles is too many????
I'm 25 years old 6'3", 245 lbs. I wouldnt trade anything for the gains gear has given me over the last 5 years. I weighed 190 lbs when i first cycled and my body has continued to change for the better since then. I'm on my tenth cycle now and am starting to worry that this all might catch up with me later in life. What is known about the long term effects of fairly heavy usage at a young age? (1 gram of test weekly with whatever else) I've done fina a few times and have a feeling that stuff probably isn't that good for you. Any of you guys wonder about health issues down the road? I don't want to get cancer at 45 and wonder if it's because of the juice. Just wondering if you guys think about it as well.
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07-16-2005, 06:38 PM #2Associate Member
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great question....bump
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07-16-2005, 06:40 PM #3
the only AAS that can be linked to cancer is anadrol , and even that is in extreme cases only
Heart problems can be an issue if you don't do cardio and get your cholesterol and bp checked.
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07-16-2005, 06:52 PM #4Originally Posted by Son Of Khadafi
and how do u know this?
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07-16-2005, 06:58 PM #5Originally Posted by bigrob33
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07-16-2005, 07:00 PM #6
it turns good cholesterol into bad cholestrol.. which is not good for the heart, and can lead to complications.
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07-17-2005, 12:00 AM #7Originally Posted by bigrob33
The fact is that the number of cases that have directly linked steroids to cancer is statistically insignificant, and all are related to the use of C17 alpha alkylated compounds. Again, C 17 alpha aklylation is a chemical modification that allows steroids to be used orally. This makes them mildly hepatotoxic, and continued use over long periods of time can place serious stress on the liver. The few cases of liver damage and subsequent cancer that have been confirmed to be related to the use of AAS have occurred in primarily in sick patients whose liver function had already been compromised in some fashion, not athletes. Furthermore, the steroid involved in these cases was almost always Anadrol -50. This makes complete sense, as Anadrol comes in a very high dose per pill (50 mg) when compared to other oral steroids . Furthermore, the amount of Anadrol that was often to prescribed to patients was astronomical, the Physician’s Desk Reference (known as the PDR, the reference guide physicians use when prescribing drugs) recommended 1-5 mg/kg of body weight per day. To put this into perspective, a 200 lb individual would be given anywhere between 100-500 mg of Anadrol per day. This is between 2-10 tabs of Anadrol daily. Anyone having used real Anadrol (and there’s very few that have, almost ALL of the oxymetholone available today is severely underdosed) knows that even 100 mg is an incredibly effective dose that will always be accompanied by a host of negative side effects."
This is just one source
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07-17-2005, 12:00 AM #8
17aa (orals) are liver toxic and anadrol is the worst out of them.
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07-17-2005, 12:10 AM #9Originally Posted by Son Of Khadafi
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07-17-2005, 12:10 AM #10Banned
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winstrol raises are ldl levels..i know from expierence....best way to lower colesterol is (witch worked wonders)
niacin (no flush) 1500mg the 1st day 1000mg 2nd day and 500mg ED for 6 weeks with one asprin a day...cut mine by a considerable amount (217-145) my friend went from 3somthing to 150 in 6 weeks..just my 2cents on high colestrol being a problem
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07-17-2005, 12:50 AM #11
1 cycle is too many because it leads into more.
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07-17-2005, 12:54 AM #12Originally Posted by aadren****e
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07-17-2005, 02:29 AM #13Originally Posted by Son Of Khadafi
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07-17-2005, 03:10 AM #14
The worst for agression, yes. But the worst on your liver is Anadrol , hands down.
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07-17-2005, 05:11 AM #15Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
agreed with this one
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07-17-2005, 07:25 AM #16
Yeah, I think about it Bro. It's not myself that I'm really worried about, I worry about my little kids and how they would turn out if I happened to kick the bucket early. I do all I can to protect myself but who knows if that is enough?
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07-17-2005, 08:20 AM #17Member
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Originally Posted by bigjsheets
Hows the hairline going?
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07-17-2005, 09:20 AM #18Junior Member
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excellent info guys, and a good question.
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07-17-2005, 09:38 AM #19
Here's what I think:
If you hold the thought in your mind that steroids have adverse side effects than of COURSE you're going to see them. You mind tends to see what it's looking for. IE, your low on money and you start to notice all the spare coins on the ground.
Likewise, hold steady the thought that roids cause sides and so be it. "As a man thinketh." Now if you were wise, you'd hold onto the thought that steroids only improve your health and only have positive sides. This is an empowering belief.
Don't think yourslef sick, or into cancer.
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07-17-2005, 10:20 AM #20New Member
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Originally Posted by bigjsheets
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