how necessary is hcg ?

**john wayne** · 07-19-2005, 04:25 PM

Im in done 3rd week of first cycle and the boyzz are definetly loosing some weight.. ive got plenty nolv and clomi for pct... from what ive researched many people have been fine with just these .... however i am getting a little worried now due to the high number of people i see recommending and using hcg ..... I just want to ensure that my boyz will be back in full swing ( no pun intended ) when all is said and done....

**john wayne** · 07-19-2005, 04:42 PM

how do you bump these threads.... does someone have to do that for you

**Booz** · 07-19-2005, 04:43 PM

wat test are you usin?

**john wayne** · 07-19-2005, 04:47 PM

500 t cyp per wk

**john wayne** · 07-19-2005, 04:47 PM

plus dbol for 4 wks 35 mg

**Jsik98** · 07-19-2005, 04:48 PM

To bump you just write- bump! Anyway, if you're using nolva during and post cycle and you have clomid for pct you should be fine. IMO, clomid and hCG are interchangeble. If you were concerned with getting the boys back while on cycle you could use clomid in low doses until pct. Then, once completely off, raise your clomid doses accordingly.

**john wayne** · 07-19-2005, 04:52 PM

Have you tried the AR Research clomid

**mark956101957** · 07-19-2005, 06:06 PM

If hcg and clomid were interchangable- which they are not, than you could use hcg during pct- which you should not. If your balls are really shrinking up use hcg twice a week 500iu per IM inject, two days in a row, every week for the cycle stopping before pct.

**Moosepellet** · 07-19-2005, 06:13 PM

How long are you going to run your gear? If not longer than 16wks, don't bother. Remember HCG will cause an increase in androne levels and estrogen. If your considering taking HCG, have plenty of nolva on hand

**Drummerboy** · 07-19-2005, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Jsik98

To bump you just write- bump! Anyway, if you're using nolva during and post cycle and you have clomid for pct you should be fine. IMO, clomid and hCG are interchangeble. If you were concerned with getting the boys back while on cycle you could use clomid in low doses until pct. Then, once completely off, raise your clomid doses accordingly.

I would use HCG at 500iu E4D if your nuts are a shrinkin.... it will keep em in good shape, and speed along your PCT with clomid/nolva/ldex. dont take hcg and clomid together. stop the hcg with the end of your longest ester, then start pct...

**Unoid** · 07-19-2005, 06:31 PM

I did 2000IU's twice anear the end of my 13week cycle jsut before pct.
Not sure how well it helped lol.

**john wayne** · 07-19-2005, 08:49 PM

Hey thanks guys.... i should be ok... i just notice some shrinkage for a few hours after popping dbols.. but i mean they're still there and all... i just didnt have any hcg and was wodering if i should get some but im just going to roll without it.