can i get away with 25ga. needles with t400?

**Samson7** · 07-20-2005, 09:36 PM

i plan on drawing it out with and 18 guage, i am cutting it with deca to help with the pain. I know the 25 guage will be a slow injection but slow is better right???? any opinions are appreciated thanks.

**doctodd** · 07-20-2005, 09:39 PM

your finger is going to hurt like a mtf from pushing so hard for so long, not to mention your injection site. I used a 25G for deca alone.

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**FF Quads** · 07-20-2005, 09:40 PM

I did it with a 22 guage but not a 25. I did the same with the Deca and it worked great. Why do you want to stay soooo small. I should not be too bad with the Deca and a 22 g. You will be able to push it slow with either.

**Samson7** · 07-20-2005, 09:53 PM

the reason i was going so small was because all the pharmacies around here dont carry 22-23 ga. 1 1/2 in. only 25 guage in the 1 1/2 in pin

**Samson7** · 07-20-2005, 09:54 PM

oh btw ffquads how was the pain with the t400 and the 22ga???

**Samson7** · 07-21-2005, 05:39 PM

would you suggest 23 or 22 guage then?

**jaydub** · 07-21-2005, 06:38 PM

get some 22 guage, order em from arr if you can't get em at your pharmacy

**savax** · 07-21-2005, 06:55 PM

22s hurt like a mofo! I'd suggest 23

**p0d0078** · 07-21-2005, 07:14 PM

i used 23 and that also hurts a mofo. so i think it doesn't matter what size, ofcourse not going to extremes, it will fu**ing hurt

**Irishguy22** · 07-21-2005, 07:48 PM

23 it probably the best it's not too big that it will hurt plus it's not too small a ga that it will take forever to inject i like 25 gauge because i really don't care how long it takes to inject

**FF Quads** · 07-21-2005, 07:59 PM

Order what you really want online. It is easy and safe.

**Iceman911** · 07-21-2005, 08:41 PM

IMO I use 25g all the time. 25g 1". I only shoot delts and quads. I've shot deca , and Omnadren , and winny. The oil based is alittle slow, but water based goes in smooth.

**mark956101957** · 07-21-2005, 09:48 PM

You could use a 25 gauge just make sure you use a 3cc and not a 5cc you need less pressure to push it in p=f/a

**Charged_UP** · 07-21-2005, 09:51 PM

nah man just get a better gauge, I have pushed so hard before that the needed squirts out all the oil and comes off so i just have it sticking in my arm alone. Dont bother bor, just get a bettet gauge.

**mark956101957** · 07-21-2005, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by Charged_UP

nah man just get a better gauge, I have pushed so hard before that the needed squirts out all the oil and comes off so i just have it sticking in my arm alone. Dont bother bor, just get a bettet gauge.

FORCE is created by pressure exerted on an area. Or,
FORCE = PRESSURE x AREA Has no one noticed how much easier it is to inject with a smaller 3cc syringe than with a larger diameter 5cc syringe? Physics. And if you would of made sure the needle was threaded on all the way that would not have happened!

**MrMent1on** · 07-21-2005, 10:07 PM

I only use a 25gx1" 3cc and no problem, takes a little longer but never a problem.

**The Baron** · 07-22-2005, 08:53 AM

I draw with a 21ga cause it sucks up quick. I shoot with a 25ga cause it doesn't hurt. I change pins cause I hate shooting with a dull pin that has been pushed through a rubber stopper or scraped the bottom or sides of an amp. 23ga is popular for shooting, too. The terumo thin wall pins in 23ga are not much bigger than 25ga pins. You can order them online and if you shop around, you might even find them cheaper than at your local pharmacy. Buy by the box of 100.