Prop Cycle length

[Indymuscleguy]

Hey guys,

I'm getting ready to start a prop cycle. Anyone ever frontload w/prop?

My typical prop cycle consists of 100mg/cc eod for 8 weeks but think I'll run it for 12 this time.

1. Anyone ever frontload w/prop?

2. I also have enough Masteron to run for the same amout of time...Would anyone suggest running the two together?

3. Finally, since I have such a hard time with long acting esters, I know the prop and masteron are short acting esters, should I run 25 mg of Aromasin eod for the entire cycle?

Thanks!

Indymuscleguy

[Benches505]

The props length and dosages look good. I've never tried Masteron (yet) but i've heard many compare it to tren with less sides. I would run them together like you are planing and you should see some nice results.

[Indymuscleguy]

Benches505,

Thanks man. What do you think a combined dose of both should be? (eod dose) Also, since they aromatize far less than ethanate/cyponate/sustanon ...should I throw in the aromasin 25mg eod? My estrogen was SKY HIGH when I ran my last cycle of cyp and the acne was crazy! With my cycle of prop (6weeks/100mg/cc eod) I didn't have nearly the acne ... but the gains were very good.

Indymuscleguy

[superstretch74]

12 weeks is good, but you really dont need to frontload with prop, its already fast acting.

I would use nolva 10 or 20mg daily on cycle and use liquidex as well @ .25 daily, your estrogen levels will be nill and you won't have to worry about gyno

[Drummerboy]

You could just run nolva with the prop, bloat is low anyway.... try 75mg ED for better levels..... great gains

[Indymuscleguy]

Hey guys,

Thanks for the responses. It is interesting, I never experienced gyno or any real edema issues when I was on any of the three cycles, rather, the lab values were the only indicator. I admit I had slightly sore nipples, very slightly. My last cycle, Cyp 250mg/cc (500mg/wk) and 50mg proviron (ed) gave me so much acne and very little gains compared to my prop cycle (100mg eod). My anti-aging physician said that prop/ethanate can aromatize so much more.

My questions about the nolva and arimidex are:

1. Won't very low levels of estrogen kill my sex drive?

2. I have plenty of aromasin on hand and I have some liquid nolva also...I know during my pct, the acne came and went and I attributed it to fluxuating hormone levels, but do you think by adding them during a cycle I may break out even more?

3. Finally, if I do the Prop and Masteron the full 12 weeks, would I do 75mg ed of both for a total of 150mg/ed?

Thanks!

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[Indymuscleguy]

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[diezell]

i have never used masteron but i hear that it should only be used if youre bf is allready low or else it will make you look bloated i dont know how true it is.

[Indymuscleguy]

Diezell,

Hey man...thanks. My bf usually runs between 10-12% year round. I'm closer to 12 right now. After 12weeks tho...I hope to be rockin!

[Hammersmashedface]

You could just run nolva with the prop, bloat is low anyway.... try 75mg ED for better levels..... great gains

I agree.I am starting my prop only cycle on wednesday.100mg ED

[Indymuscleguy]

Thanks Hammer...

So guys am I going to run 75mg of EACH per day? Has anyone ran the two together in a cycle?

Indymuscleguy

[scotttiger54]

you need to keep your test atleast 100mg higher/wk than an androgen. i'd run 100mg/ed of prop, and 75mg/ed of the masteron

[Indymuscleguy]

Scotttiger54,

Cool, so a total of 175mg/ed....100 of prop and 75 of mast...

Thanks!

Indymuscleguy

[Indymuscleguy]

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Thanks!

Indymuscleguy

[Mighty Joe]

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[The Baron]

100 prop and 75 tren will work fine. Very powerful cycle. Be ready to fine-tune the tren dosage to keep your sides manageable. Try dropping or increasing the tren in 10mg increments. If you get down to 50mg or lower, you can drop the prop to 75 if you want, but this probably isn't necessary.

Yes, some estrogen is necessary for a healthy libido... some dht too, I believe. Nolva in any kind of reasonable dose will not completely block your estrogen. Try starting at 10mg/ED and only raise it if gyno symptoms appear. 10mg should be enough to manage what little bloat you might get from this cycle.

[Indymuscleguy]

Baron,

Did you type Tren by mistake and mean Masteron ? My cycle is Prop and Masteron. If you did, I get your drift, if not, you've lost me as I am not using tren w/ this cycle.

Indymuscleguy

[needbigguns]

what are typical gains from 8 week prop and 4 week dbol 40mg per day for 4 weeks.
Also wots a good dosage of prop per week ?

[The Baron]

Baron,

Did you type Tren by mistake and mean Masteron ? My cycle is Prop and Masteron. If you did, I get your drift, if not, you've lost me as I am not using tren w/ this cycle.

Indymuscleguy

Ooops my bad. I got tren on the brain, I guess. Masteron is not quite as critical, that much I know, but I have no direct experience with it.

[Drummerboy]

100mg prop ED and 75mg Mast Ed. You may not need an anti-e, as mast may help that. If you do, nolva and/or ldex will do, this is not to heavy a cycle, but a good one!!! i get great results off 100mg prop ED.... PCT is probably a good idea though. check out hookers mast profile :

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=164394

[needbigguns]

is tren the bomb ?

[The Baron]

is tren the bomb ?

It's friggin nuclear.

No hyoooge or rapid gains, usually, but very hard muscular gains that you keep well. With say a tren /prop cycle, you not only look good after your cycle, but you actually can look pretty good during the cycle, too.

[Indymuscleguy]

Hey guys,

THanks for the responses.

Baron:

Tren ...can you tell me exactley what it's called Tren..... Acetate....Ethanate...not too familiar with this...but sounds nice!

Indymuscleguy

[Mighty Joe]

Hey guys,

THanks for the responses.

Baron:

Tren ...can you tell me exactley what it's called Tren..... Acetate....Ethanate...not too familiar with this...but sounds nice!

Indymuscleguy

Indy,

Probably Tren Acetate and along with Prop i hear it is awesome. But, i'm gonna do Prop/Masteron next to see how that goes. Let me know if you do the same.

10 weeks Prop 75mg/ed
Mast 50mg/ed
Should do a body good!

MJ

[Indymuscleguy]

Thanks MJ! Will fill you in as I go along.

[Indymuscleguy]

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Indymuscleguy