Clomid Verses Nolvadex!!!

**ludakris9** · 07-25-2005, 11:51 AM

Hey guys one more simple question: I will be running

weeks 1-10 500 mg test E- 2 injections per week @ 250mg.
weeks 11-12 maintain clean diet and lifting with 20mg of Nova per day
weeks 13-14 20mg of nova per day
weeks 15-18 10mg of nova per day ( I then will keep running the nova at 10mg a day until I feel normal again.

My question is that I have heard and read up that Nolvadex and Clomid are both good PCTs to use. I just wanted to know if Nolvadex is the one I should use or if Clomid would be better on my first cycle?

**Dave321** · 07-25-2005, 11:53 AM

do some searchin.... clomid is a must during pct and nolva serves other purposes...

**fballhoss51** · 07-25-2005, 11:55 AM

i dont use clomid b/c i dont want my vision getting any worse

***JohnnyB*** · 07-25-2005, 12:36 PM

Nolva is better then clomid, start pct 2 weeks after last shot, go 40mg for 2 weeks, then 20mg until you get your sex drive back

JohnnyB

**Drummerboy** · 07-25-2005, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Justin Gayne

do some searchin.... clomid is a must during pct and nolva serves other purposes...

not really true anymore....

read : http://www.bodybuilding4life.com/for...2&postcount=27

i dont think im using clomid again.... just nolva and ldex... i dont like to use more compounds than necessary

**ludakris9** · 07-26-2005, 10:45 AM

It seems like most people like nova better! I will do some researching. Thanks bro's!

**onthecumup** · 07-26-2005, 10:50 AM

ia m doin both, nolva during whole cycle at 10 mg day and proper pct with clomid

**ludakris9** · 08-03-2005, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by onthecumup

ia m doin both, nolva during whole cycle at 10 mg day and proper pct with clomid

Do you like both nolva and clomid toghther then??

**Liftnainez** · 08-03-2005, 03:01 PM

So is it true that for pct all you need is NOLVA? (obviously proper diet, training and recovery) Clomid is just an extra?

**Swifto** · 08-03-2005, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

So is it true that for pct all you need is NOLVA? (obviously proper diet, training and recovery) Clomid is just an extra?

Some use Clomid/Nolva and some use just Nolva. It depends on how your body reacts to both combinations. Personally I am going to try both on my first cycle then I will try just Nolva. What works for you may not work for some one else.

A dose of 20mg/ED of Nolva is similar to 150mg/ED of Clomid.

**redman9** · 08-05-2005, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Some use Clomid/Nolva and some use just Nolva. It depends on how your body reacts to both combinations. Personally I am going to try both on my first cycle then I will try just Nolva. What works for you may not work for some one else.

A dose of 20mg/ED of Nolva is similar to 150mg/ED of Clomid.

I would do what you want bro! You can try both like this dude or just nolva. Both Clomid and Nolva are great!!! Good luck Homie!!

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-05-2005, 10:40 AM

Clomid works. Period. I do not think nolva is better for the purpose, but as it relates mg for mg it is more powerful. I have used nolva, clomid, and nolva/clomid pct and I think the combo is better than clomid alone. It took me a longer time to recover on just nolva.

**mister.fantastic** · 08-05-2005, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

Clomid works. Period. I do not think nolva is better for the purpose, but as it relates mg for mg it is more powerful. I have used nolva, clomid, and nolva/clomid pct and I think the combo is better than clomid alone. It took me a longer time to recover on just nolva.

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**CRUISECONTROL** · 08-05-2005, 11:22 AM

I'm with Drummerboy, nolva and l-dex for pct

**crazykris6** · 08-05-2005, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

Clomid works. Period. I do not think nolva is better for the purpose, but as it relates mg for mg it is more powerful. I have used nolva, clomid, and nolva/clomid pct and I think the combo is better than clomid alone. It took me a longer time to recover on just nolva.

thanks for the information bro!

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-05-2005, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by crazykris6

thanks for the information bro!

Your welcome... Do you have any experiences to contribute?

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-05-2005, 01:14 PM

Bump for more experiences.

**stocky121** · 08-05-2005, 01:19 PM

i agree with meso on this

fair enough if you have problems like with your eye's and you carn't use clomid fair enough run nlova only

but clomid/nolvadex time and time again has been proven to work

**fballhoss51** · 08-05-2005, 01:20 PM

im going to use only nolva for my pct, 40mg/day for 2 weeks and then 20mg until sex drive is back, only question i have is about how long do u think i will have to run it at 20mg after i taper down from 40 to be back in check, i kno it varies from person to person but whats tha average?

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-05-2005, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by fballhoss51

im going to use only nolva for my pct, 40mg/day for 2 weeks and then 20mg until sex drive is back, only question i have is about how long do u think i will have to run it at 20mg after i taper down from 40 to be back in check, i kno it varies from person to person but whats tha average?

I tried that once and took nolva for almost a total of 6 weeks... Another few weeks afterwards my sex drive came back. So for me that protocol takes nearly two months to recover verses one month.

**Roid Rage** · 08-05-2005, 01:53 PM

from what i understand nova and clomid are totally different products and each serve a different reason, so why compare them?

**fballhoss51** · 08-05-2005, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

I tried that once and took nolva for almost a total of 6 weeks... Another few weeks afterwards my sex drive came back. So for me that protocol takes nearly two months to recover verses one month.

did u keep around tha same amount of gains u think u wouldve kept if u had run clomid?

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-05-2005, 02:09 PM

Well... first I believe I lost a few more lbs post cycle because trying to keep intensity up, diet in check is hard to due for an additional two months. I am a diet retard. But I always got my sex drive and energy back quicker with clomid.

Also, I have a hard time keeping gains, partly from not eating big and all the time, partly I believe I must be at my genetic point. I have a hard time keeping gains over 240lbs with 16-17% bf... so my genetics may only be structured for 215-225 lean muscle, roughly.

**fballhoss51** · 08-05-2005, 02:20 PM

what was ur cycle whatd u gain and how much did u lose? sry im askin so much just wondering b4 i jump into it

**crazykris6** · 08-05-2005, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Roid Rage

from what i understand nova and clomid are totally different products and each serve a different reason, so why compare them?

I have heard the both have a lot in common and are both used as a PCT.

**Froggy** · 08-05-2005, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

Clomid works. Period. I do not think nolva is better for the purpose, but as it relates mg for mg it is more powerful. I have used nolva, clomid, and nolva/clomid pct and I think the combo is better than clomid alone. It took me a longer time to recover on just nolva.

This statement is close to home for me also...Clomid creates bigger loads & during PCT thats got to be a good thing...IMHO...I do believe that nolva in the mix helps the situation too...

**ludakris9** · 08-09-2005, 12:18 PM

Thanks for everything bro's I appreciate your experiences and advice!!!

**Seattle Junk** · 08-09-2005, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

I tried that once and took nolva for almost a total of 6 weeks... Another few weeks afterwards my sex drive came back. So for me that protocol takes nearly two months to recover verses one month.

How much clomid do you take each day during PCT? Do you frontload?

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