Help with first cycle

**xplicit** · 04-25-2002, 10:18 AM

5,10 168 21 years old working out 22 months bf??
First Cycle

Weeks 1-10 test cyp 250mgs
Weeks 1-10 eq 500mgs
Weeks 7-13 win 50mgs ed
clomid day aftter 300mgs
100mgs 10 days
50mgs 10 days

Ok its almost definite that thats the cycle im gonna do
im hoping to start first week of May.

Im just wondering if i should even keep the cyp in there is it necessary and i know ill get a few responses tellin me to up it to 500mgs which im not gonna do its either 250 or nothing.
Bascially if i get rid of the test how much am i really losing out on ???

Im edgy as it is im hoping i dont become a dick on this stuff this is my first cycle its all new to me.

Any words of advice or critizim is fine and i want to hear any opions out there

**MBaraso** · 04-25-2002, 10:27 AM

Well if you leave the Test out your looking at basicly a cutting cycle.
Eq isn't a steroid that your going to gain alot of mass from very quickly. You'll gain quality muscle but it's a slower gain and most of the time the gains are permenent.
@ 5'10 168lbs I'm assuming you wanna gain some lbs right? Well w/ out the Cyp your not going to put on alot of weight.
I'm sure everyone on the board would agree w/ me if I tell you to up the Cyp to 500mgs, but it's your choice. You'll be kicking yourself in the ass when your done saying "Dam...I should have uped the Cyp to 500mgs like the guys told me to"
GoodLuck Bro..

M

**xplicit** · 04-25-2002, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by MBaraso
Well if you leave the Test out your looking at basicly a cutting cycle.
Eq isn't a steroid that your going to gain alot of mass from very quickly. You'll gain quality muscle but it's a slower gain and most of the time the gains are permenent.
@ 5'10 168lbs I'm assuming you wanna gain some lbs right? Well w/ out the Cyp your not going to put on alot of weight.
I'm sure everyone on the board would agree w/ me if I tell you to up the Cyp to 500mgs, but it's your choice. You'll be kicking yourself in the ass when your done saying "Dam...I should have uped the Cyp to 500mgs like the guys told me to"
GoodLuck Bro..

M

I just dont want to go too crazy with my first cycle. I want to be carful but i do want to do the best cycle i can do. I have a great routine and i have learned to eat a lot better, I do need to add some size and i heard the eq can help me gain muscle if i eat right on it and the lil bit of test im using can only help. Im not sure i find my self second guessing(in terms of what and how much to use) a lot when it comes to doing the gear.

**xplicit** · 04-25-2002, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Diesel
I am running something similiar.
Running Enanthate instead of Cyp and running all at higher dose.
Keep the test and I would up it (but you have already heard that).
As far as being edgy and hoping that you won't become a dick on this cycle. If you do, it is not the sauce, your just well, a dick.

Yea but i seen some people i know on the stuff act differnlty im just hoping that wont be me.

**jbrand** · 04-25-2002, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by xplicit

I just dont want to go too crazy with my first cycle. I want to be carful but i do want to do the best cycle i can do. I have a great routine and i have learned to eat a lot better, I do need to add some size and i heard the eq can help me gain muscle if i eat right on it and the lil bit of test im using can only help. Im not sure i find my self second guessing(in terms of what and how much to use) a lot when it comes to doing the gear.

there is nothing 'crazy' about this cycle. test would be the LAST thing i would drop, i would say up it to 500mg/week and remove something else if you really are concerned.