7 Year Expired Gear

**THEMOSTHATED** · 07-29-2005, 12:10 PM

Okay. I bought this stuff in '96 and never took it. They all expire in '98. Un-opened, room temp kept. Don't ask why never took it. Sust250, D-bol, Primabolan Depot. Still good? Maybe 80-90% potent? I read somewhere that juice is one of the most stable drugs and only looses potency. What's the skinny?

**Benches505** · 07-29-2005, 12:12 PM

I would not use anything more than a year or two past shelf life.

**hosam4ever** · 07-29-2005, 12:42 PM

fu(k do u wanna use them

**DEVLDOG** · 07-29-2005, 01:58 PM

trash

**smokethedays** · 07-29-2005, 01:59 PM

is it wine yet?!

**Heracles74** · 07-29-2005, 02:31 PM

its not worth it dude, your sticking it deep in your body... hell no, I would trash it.

**punchrf** · 07-29-2005, 04:30 PM

that would be about like injecting curdled milk i would imagine. 7 years is a long time ago. i was just getting my drivers license.

**THEMOSTHATED** · 07-29-2005, 06:29 PM

bump

**Maetenloch** · 07-29-2005, 06:35 PM

I would suspect that a good amount of the hormone is still active, however I'd be more concerned about the oil breaking down along with bacterial growth. Injecting this is just asking for an abcess. Doesn't seem worth it to me.

**Defconx3** · 07-29-2005, 06:38 PM

I say trash it, if it was only like 1 year, it would have probably still been good. I wouldn't risk it, theres reasons why there is an "expiration date".

**THEMOSTHATED** · 07-29-2005, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Maetenloch

I would suspect that a good amount of the hormone is still active, however I'd be more concerned about the oil breaking down along with bacterial growth. Injecting this is just asking for an abcess. Doesn't seem worth it to me.

Appreciate all the help and opinions. But, and you knew there was a but coming, is there any science evidence that gives the breakdown? I will not take it (now) thanks to this thread's help, but just curious.

**The Baron** · 07-30-2005, 12:59 AM

I am not aware of it, but look at some old vegetable oil some time. Feel it. Smell it. Compare it with fresh stuff, bought at the grocery store within the last year or so. Vegetable oils do break down. That's why you don't put wesson oil in your truck engine. All gear is made with some type of vegetable oil, be in castor oil, grapeseed, cottonseed, safflower, sesamee, whatever. After 7 years, no telling what you got. I would toss it, or keep it as a souvenier and a reminder to not leave stuff stashed where you can overlook it for so long next time.

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**bigJJ** · 07-30-2005, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by The Baron

I am not aware of it, but look at some old vegetable oil some time. Feel it. Smell it. Compare it with fresh stuff, bought at the grocery store within the last year or so. Vegetable oils do break down. That's why you don't put wesson oil in your truck engine. All gear is made with some type of vegetable oil, be in castor oil, grapeseed, cottonseed, safflower, sesamee, whatever. After 7 years, no telling what you got. I would toss it, or keep it as a souvenier and a reminder to not leave stuff stashed where you can overlook it for so long next time.

Exactly! Trash-o-rama!! Would you put 7 year old oil (and vinegar) on your salad and eat it? Much less inject it deep into your muscle tissue?

It's a sad loss, and we'll all salute her as she goes down. But there is no need to risk your health over this.

**bigJJ** · 07-30-2005, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by THEMOSTHATED

Appreciate all the help and opinions. But, and you knew there was a but coming, is there any science evidence that gives the breakdown? I will not take it (now) thanks to this thread's help, but just curious.

Kinda curious to see the scientific evidence myself (I'm just a geek like that). But I stand by my opinion.

***JohnnyB*** · 07-30-2005, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by bigJJ

Kinda curious to see the scientific evidence myself (I'm just a geek like that).

Me too

JohnnyB

**savax** · 07-30-2005, 08:56 AM

Don't waste your money! Try using it and tell me what happens

**jcshack** · 07-30-2005, 09:44 AM

Not sure about gear but things like tylenol, advil, etc their expiration dates mean that they have broken down by 10%.

**SexyKitty** · 07-30-2005, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by jcshack

Not sure about gear but things like tylenol, advil, etc their expiration dates mean that they have broken down by 10%.

The expiration date is simply the date that drug manufactureres can GURANTEE the potency of the drug. After the expiration date there is no absolute number (like 10%) by which the drug degrades, all drugs are different and breakdown at different rates. Pills are often good years and years after they expire but things like insulin , gh, and AAS (hormones and biologics) are not as stable and lose potency (and can harbor bacteria) faster.

7 years is a long time, dont bother.

**THEMOSTHATED** · 07-30-2005, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by savax

Don't waste your money! Try using it and tell me what happens

**str8cubano** · 07-30-2005, 12:01 PM

I know what you wanna hear. But your not going to hear it. Trash it, the bacteria in it is probably going to **** you up

**Jack87** · 07-30-2005, 12:33 PM

2-3 years past the date and I'd say give it a shot... 7 years I'd personally
throw the shit away, it's no doubt lost alot of potency so you have no
real idea of what kind of dose you'll be taking and it may have had some
bacteria growth in all that time too, so why risk an infection?? You ever
see a pic of a nasty infection from a injection? Not pretty a pretty thing...

**Jack87** · 07-30-2005, 12:41 PM

Here's one of my favorite pics of a nasty ass abcess infection...

This should make you think twice before injecting something that old...

**str8cubano** · 07-30-2005, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by buff87

Here's one of my favorite pics of a nasty ass abcess infection...

This should make you think twice before injecting something that old...

nice..

**THEMOSTHATED** · 07-30-2005, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by buff87

Here's one of my favorite pics of a nasty ass abcess infection...

This should make you think twice before injecting something that old...

Wholy Sh%$#T, that's nasty. What about the D-bol. It is the Dupa bottle (little purple pills, and no, not the Eminem song pills either).

**Jack87** · 07-30-2005, 06:04 PM

You should be fine trying the pills, but I wouldn't go injecting the other stuff...

Originally Posted by THEMOSTHATED

Wholy Sh%$#T, that's nasty. What about the D-bol. It is the Dupa bottle (little purple pills, and no, the the Eminem song pills either).

**Brianna** · 07-30-2005, 06:50 PM

I would use it..I have used winny 5-7 yeasrs over the date and it was fine...Juts looses a little strength.

**BigMike J** · 07-30-2005, 06:55 PM

I say get the shit tested.. least we would all have some sort of evidence.

**love 2 lift** · 07-30-2005, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by buff87

Here's one of my favorite pics of a nasty ass abcess infection...

This should make you think twice before injecting something that old...

Man that sucks!

**Sir Lifts-a-lot** · 07-30-2005, 08:17 PM

Is it worth an infection? idk to me personally no it isn't. But hey it isn't my body.

The date on the bottle is the producers gurantee like statedbefore but if it never went bad then why not just leave the exp date off of it ya know.