How does this cycle look for a mass builder without the water bloat?

[Thick-wit-It]

Week 1 of Test and EQ would be double.

Weeks 2-12-----> Test E 750mgs
Weeks 2-13-----> 600mgs EQ
Weeks 7-15-----> Tren-A at 50-100mg ED (ramp up as tolerated)
Weeks 10-15----> 40mgs Anavar
Weeks 13 ----> Test Prop @ 50mg ED
Weeks 14-15----> Test Prop @ 100mg ED

Falsodex once a month...

(maybe)500iu of HCG 2 x per week on weeks 12 - 16
Clomid and HCG for PCT ...

[MBaraso]

Week 1 of Test and EQ would be double.

Weeks 2-12-----> Test E 750mgs
Weeks 2-13-----> 600mgs EQ
Weeks 7-15-----> Tren-A at 50-100mg ED (ramp up as tolerated)
Weeks 10-15----> 40mgs Anavar
Weeks 13 ----> Test Prop @ 50mg ED
Weeks 14-15----> Test Prop @ 100mg ED

Falsodex once a month...

(maybe)500iu of HCG 2 x per week on weeks 12 - 16
Clomid and HCG for PCT ...

When your truely bulking you need the waterbloat.
Why only 50mgs ed of prop on week 13 though? And don't ramp the tren. If it's your first time around w/ it 75mgs ed should be fine.

B6 and a some ldex or letro should be standard w/ this cycle.

[daem]

I agree with everything MB said about dosages, and water.

When I run a bulker, I make sure to use only Nolva so I can still have some estrogen floating around in my system. Eliminating all of the circulating estrogen with Letro is great when you want to be hard and tight all over, but it has been counter productive for me when I try to put on substantial size.

The extra water helps cushion the joints and effectively aid in injury prevention from rapid jumps in poundage.

[smokethedays]

one more thing, u got it the opposite on the Test and the Eq, u should go with Test 1 extra week over Eq.

[MBaraso]

I agree with everything MB said about dosages, and water.

When I run a bulker, I make sure to use only Nolva so I can still have some estrogen floating around in my system. Eliminating all of the circulating estrogen with Letro is great when you want to be hard and tight all over, but it has been counter productive for me when I try to put on substantial size.

The extra water helps cushion the joints and effectively aid in injury prevention from rapid jumps in poundage.

Yep. Not to mention more water = more strenght. More strenght means heavier weights which = Bigger muscles IMO

[MBaraso]

When your truely bulking you need the waterbloat.
Why only 50mgs ed of prop on week 13 though? And don't ramp the tren. If it's your first time around w/ it 75mgs ed should be fine.

B6 and a some ldex or letro should be standard w/ this cycle.

He's ending his cycle w/ prop so it doesn't matter.

[Thick-wit-It]

What would you guys suggest for a big time mass builder. All opinions are welcome. I'm just curious to see what everyone else thinks is a great cycle for mass. I want to put on alot of mass with this one so shoot me str8.

[MBaraso]

What would you guys suggest for a big time mass builder. All opinions are welcome. I'm just curious to see what everyone else thinks is a great cycle for mass. I want to put on alot of mass with this one so shoot me str8.

dbol or drol/test/deca

Those are the 4 drugs when it comes to mass building. But it all comes down to how much u can eat/train when bulking.

[Thick-wit-It]

Thanks man....Couldnt I throw tren in there somewhere? Any other suggestions?

[Thick-wit-It]

bump

[MBaraso]

Yeah tren can be used in either bulking or cutting cycles.

[The Baron]

Looks good to me. All the precautionary measures the other guys have mentioned should be followed.


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