Aight bros...i have a friend who wants around 20lbs or so of muscle but when he gets done he wants to be ripped also...I gave him 2 choices...running test with winny at the end to harden him up some...or he could run test with nolva, arimidex, proviron (one of em) to keep the water down so he can still keep his quality muscle...anyone else know of anything better..if not i can set up his cycle, i would just like opinions on which gear to work with.