first cycle plans...

[imanewbie]

whats up...this is what i have in mind...need some input please in some spots

test p - wk 1-10 @150mgEOD
winny - wk 5-10 @ 50mg ED
nolvadex wk 1-10 @ 10mg ED

(how long in between cycle and pct?? 2 weeks?? or right away?)
PCT
Nolvadex 20mgED
clomid (this is where i need help)

[eGGz]

I like test E @ 500mg EW for 10-12 weeks for a first cycle. Only two shots a week.

As far as the clomid goes I keep it simple and just run 100mg ED for 4 weeks. Some prefer to frontload the clomid and or taper down at the end.

[imanewbie]

I like test E @ 500mg EW for 10-12 weeks for a first cycle. Only two shots a week.

As far as the clomid goes I keep it simple and just run 100mg ED for 4 weeks. Some prefer to frontload the clomid and or taper down at the end.

for PCT?

[eGGz]

Cycle:
1-12 Test E @ 500mg EW (two shots per week I.E. monday morning/thursday evening)

PCT:
15-18 Clomid @ 100mg ED
15-18 Nolva @ 20mg ED

Nice and simple

[j-dog]

I would start pct immedietly after cycle, the clomid i would go with what eGGc says every day four wks 100 mg's I really don't think you need to front load it but each person is different. If you can get cyp or enanthate I would try that you will get sick of eod shots.

[eGGz]

If you go with Test P, you will need to start PCT within a week of your cycle.

If you go with Test E, you need to wait two weeks for the test to clear your system before jumping on PCT.

[imanewbie]

from what i understand test p will give me better results, and i will see results sooner...are you guys against my winny idea?

[eGGz]

from what i understand test p will give me better results, and i will see results sooner...are you guys against my winny idea?

Prop is not really a great choice for a first cycle.

A) EOD shots which will also require multiple injection sites. Generally first timers don't want to learn to inject, lets say, quads, glutes, delts and one or two other sites that IMO take more experience.

B) Prop can be a very painful compound. Some don't suffer as much as others, which are you?

The results from the prop will be a bit sooner but not necessarily better.

[imanewbie]

how long will it take for the strength gains to kick in?? (test E) is that the 5 weeks, or is that for apprearance, or both?

[Booz]

the start times for pct after prop is 3 days after last inject mate.

[eGGz]

Winny can be harsh on the hairline if your family is prone to MPB. It can also be tough on your joints.

[eGGz]

the start times for pct after prop is 3 days after last inject mate.

Thanks booz, I never run prop anymore, that shite cripples me. Last time I tried I ended up just giving my gear away to a friend.

[imanewbie]

why is that so much more painful then anything else?

[ant_8u]

Cycle:
1-12 Test E @ 500mg EW (two shots per week I.E. monday morning/thursday evening)

PCT:
15-18 Clomid @ 100mg ED
15-18 Nolva @ 20mg ED

Nice and simple

This is a better option for you
Run it as eGGz said
Just remember your Nolvadex @ 10mg ED during your cycle

[justin2305]

Cycle:
1-12 Test E @ 500mg EW (two shots per week I.E. monday morning/thursday evening)

PCT:
15-18 Clomid @ 100mg ED
15-18 Nolva @ 20mg ED

Nice and simple

for a first cycle i would run this bro, perfect example of a beginer first cycle!