two choices, which cycle?

[plague_bringer]

In about six weeks I am going to start my first cycle. I want to build a little more muscle but I am more concentrated on "ripping". if you don't have them already here are my stats....


birthday: march 4, 1980
hieght: 6'1"
wieght: 215 pd.
bodyfat: 11-12%

which cycle do you think would work better for the results I'm going for.
10 weeks of test E at 400mg a week stacked with dbol at 20mg a day for like the first four weeks?

or does this one look better?

8 weeks of test Prop at 100mg EOD stacked with 75mg tren EOD?

as far as pct goes I will post that at a later time once I've figured out what kind of cycle I will be doing.

thanx

[G-1000]

you do not wont to run tren for your first cycle. if you looking to gain little musclr and get cut this is what i would do.

1-12 test prop 75mg shoot ed
2-10 var 60mg ed

[thejuiceisloose]

IMO, I dont like orals for a beginner cycle. I would leave it until your 3+ cycle. I would go with what gsxxr stated, or Test E or Cyp @ 500mg/wk wks 1-12, although for a beginner ED injections, OUCH!

[MatrixGuy]

I would definately run prop and var if you want a good cutting cycle. Tren isn't advised for your first cycle. You want to see how your body will respond to test before using tren.

[longhorn814]

prop and var would be a bette choice if youre more interested in cutting. As long as you dont mind the every day injects. Save tren for another cycle. You need to see how you react to test first.

[G-1000]

ed injection is a good way to learn how to shoot. by the time your done with your cycle your a ****ing pro at shooting. hell i even shoot in teh dam dark now.

[plague_bringer]

when you reffer to var you are talking about anavar right? why 12 weeks at 75mg ed instead of 8 at 100mg EOD?

thANX

[longhorn814]

anavar, like most orals, has a very short half life and needs to be taken every day

[ARIV3184]

yes anavar and 100mg eod of prop is too low of a dose if you wsnt to shoot eod then bump it up to 150mg

[G-1000]

when you reffer to var you are talking about anavar right? why 12 weeks at 75mg ed instead of 8 at 100mg EOD?

thANX

yes anavar aka var

i say 75mg ed because it's more then 100mg eod. you could run it for 8 weeks but you will get better gains at 12.

[G-1000]

anavar, like most orals, has a very short half life and needs to be taken every day

you now better then this.


var will need to be 2x a day. the half life is 9 hours.