Deca, Test, Winny?

**Pimp_C** · 08-13-2005, 07:31 AM

I am currently on a cycle of 375 deca and 450 test per week. It is week 4 in my cycle and i was wondering if it would be ok to add some winny or primo for the last few weeks in order to cut down. Is this a good or bad idea?

***G-1000*** · 08-13-2005, 07:41 AM

what does your cycle look like.

**Pimp_C** · 08-13-2005, 07:44 AM

1 shot of 1.5ml deca 250, and 1 shots of 1ml andropen 275 twice a week

**Pimp_C** · 08-13-2005, 07:46 AM

i am also running clomid and nolva at the end of my cycle

***G-1000*** · 08-13-2005, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Pimp_C

1 shot of 1.5ml deca 250, and 1 shots of 1ml andropen 275 twice a week

so your shooting 550mg test.

you are going to have to chang the way your shooting. or give it time for the long esters to kick in. andropen works best if you shoot eod so you get the full effect of the prop ester.

***G-1000*** · 08-13-2005, 07:55 AM

does the andropen burn like a bitch

**Pimp_C** · 08-13-2005, 08:01 AM

no it is not bad at all. what do you think about adding some winny or primo at the end though?

***G-1000*** · 08-13-2005, 08:11 AM

i think you should get this right first. then think of winny at the end. who long is your cycle what week are you stoping deca . when did you wont to add the winny. bro you need to help me with info if you wont help.

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**Pimp_C** · 08-13-2005, 08:14 AM

my cycle is 9 weeks long i am only running the deca for 8 of the 9 weeks, and i was thinking of adding some winny for weeks 7-10

***G-1000*** · 08-13-2005, 08:18 AM

ok weel deca needs to be run 10 weeks to get the most out of it. then the test should be run till week 11. this is what you can do

1-12.5 andropen 550mg week
1-10 deca 450 week
10-14 winny 50mg day

then day after last winny start pct.

are you running b-6 for the deca if not you should be.

**Pimp_C** · 08-13-2005, 08:22 AM

b6? you mean the vitamin

***G-1000*** · 08-13-2005, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Pimp_C

b6? you mean the vitamin

yes it stope prolactate gyno

**Pimp_C** · 08-13-2005, 08:36 AM

how much b-6 should be taken, and is the kind from gnc ok

***G-1000*** · 08-13-2005, 08:41 AM

200mg day with the deca you can get it any were.

what did you think of the cycle i showed you.

**Pimp_C** · 08-13-2005, 08:46 AM

that looks good, i just have to decide whether or not to add the winny. some people have told me that if you use winstrol to cut down, then your body will depend on it to lose fat, and when you stop the fat will go back on

***G-1000*** · 08-13-2005, 08:48 AM

that is bull shit who told you that.

**Pimp_C** · 08-13-2005, 08:51 AM

http://www.anasci.org/vB/showthread....8190#post48190 check out this post on a different site

**longhorn814** · 08-13-2005, 08:52 AM

winstrol does not burn fat! It can help harden you up and increase your vascularity, but if you think its some amazing fat loss wonder drug, youre going to be disappointed.

**Pimp_C** · 08-13-2005, 08:53 AM

let me know what you think of pincrusher's reply

***G-1000*** · 08-13-2005, 08:59 AM

i dont see where he said any thing about the winny burnning fat. he just told you to do cardio not have a good diet.

winny will not burn fat. you will still need a good diet and cardio. all it will do is harden the muscle and give good definition

**longhorn814** · 08-13-2005, 09:07 AM

bro just read that thread at a couple things:

1) You shouldnt even be taking steroids yet, youre only 21, 5'7 and weigh 150 lbs. You need to gain as much naturally before taking steroids. You wouldnt build a house without a foundation would you?

2) You said you went from 7% bf to 15% bf in 4 weeks? Your diet sucks if thats true. One more reason you shouldnt be on gear yet. You havent learned how to eat properly to take steroids which will affect your results and cause you to lose most of your gains

3) Pincrusher said the problem with using winny to cut at the end is you'll become dependant on it to get results instead of doing proper diet and cardio, which you should be on year round. So instead of dieting and cardio, youll keep taking drugs to get your desired results.

Once again we go back to diet and cardio. These are the keys to everything, not drugs!!! If you cant gain muscle, youre not eating enough calories. Here's how to bulk up:

UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

And if you want to cut:

UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...

Work on getting a better diet before taking anymore steroids