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08-18-2005, 07:20 AM #1
[B]Taking issue with Buff’s cycle[/B]
Firstly, no offense big Buff, I greatly respect your work here. I'm just seeking clarity. Now on to business...
Question: Should one take a week off Clen during a Clen/T3 cycle as in Buff’s program (below)? Why or why not?
If so, wouldn’t using the ECA stack (as Buff reccomends) in place of Clen defeat the purpose since both are selective beta-2 agonists/antagonists?
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08-18-2005, 07:43 AM #2Question: Should one take a week off Clen during a Clen/T3 cycle as in Buff’s program (below)? Why or why not?
If so, wouldn’t using the ECA stack (as Buff reccomends) in place of Clen defeat the purpose since both are selective beta-2 agonists/antagonists
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Originally Posted by IronFreakX
i second this
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08-18-2005, 08:54 AM #4
You guys have got to look out for us newbies. Buff's cycle got a lot of bumps and no one picked up on his one on one off Clen weeks. We newbies count on you.
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08-18-2005, 09:00 AM #5
I have tried mallets 7/5 split, almost a week off it worked decent but alot of headaches and uncontrollable shakes. I have tried 6 weeks solid taking benadryl as it was to do the same thing ketotefin, About week 3 is when challenges started, I tried working through it and wished I would have stopped. I also have done 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off, got the same benifits lessened sides and if I were to ever use clen again I would do it this way based on personal experience.
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08-18-2005, 09:26 AM #6
I still have no idea which thread he is referring to. magic32, again, please post the link bro.
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08-18-2005, 09:38 AM #7
Sorry Boss,
Still learning how to work the board, here's the reply though:
buff87
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Here's a little 6 week cycle for Clen /T3 I set up for a few female friends
of mine that worked quite well for them... No need for woman to go up
to 100mcg of T3 at all IMO...
Max doses for a female IMO for Clen is 60-80mcg and 50mcg-75mcg
T3 tops I'd probably go with only 50mcg of T3 and not even go any
higher then that... This is where knowing your body comes into play
as some women can run 75mcg without many problems, but 50mcg
will also produce nice results... I can get into more detail if needed...
Cycle is set up for a 75mcg T3 peak dose below, but could be backed
down to a 50mcg max dose easy enuf... 1 week at 75mcg is not that
long and should not be to much for someone in serious training...
A mild anabolic would help to hold on to muscle mass and should be
considered since you're talking about 6 weeks on T3 which can be
very catabolic in tearing down muscle... Split the doses into 2 doses
per day... I find this better because with 3 doses it's harder to sleep
at night, morning and afternoon doses are best IMO...
She might not be able to pick right back up at 60mcg of Clen after 1
week off and might have to only go with 40mcg for a few days to start
the week again... Again listen to your body and keep water and mineral
intake high as Clen and T3 together will make you sweat alot and Clen
is also great for causing cramping on it's own, especially the first few
weeks your on it... She may also want to supplement Taurine as Clen
is known to deplete Taurine levels...
Day 1 Clen 20mcg / T3 25mcg
Day 2 Clen 20mcg / T3 25mcg
Day 3 Clen 40mcg / T3 25mcg
Day 4 Clen 40mcg / T3 25mcg
Day 5 Clen 40mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 6 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 7 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 8 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day 9 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day10 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day11 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day12 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day13 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day14 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day15 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day16 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day17 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day18 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day19 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day20 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day21 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day22 Clen off / T3 75mcg
Day23 Clen off / T3 75mcg
Day24 Clen off / T3 75mcg
Day25 Clen off / T3 75mcg
Day26 Clen off / T3 75mcg
Day27 Clen off / T3 75mcg
Day28 Clen off / T3 75mcg
Day29 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day30 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day31 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day32 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day33 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day34 Clen 60mcg / T3 25mcg
Day35 Clen 60mcg / T3 25mcg
Day36 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day37 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day38 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day39 Clen off / T3 12.5mcg
Day40 Clen off / T3 12.5mcg
Day41 Clen off / T3 12.5mcg
Day42 Clen off / T3 12.5mcg
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08-18-2005, 10:06 AM #8
Copy and the paste the URL where you got this from.
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08-18-2005, 10:15 AM #9
Clen/T3 Cutting Cycle...
stuck in member's cycle results btw....
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08-18-2005, 10:24 AM #10
Close Iron,
It was from t3 or clen
Again my apologies Boss.
Triple XXX made me change my demeanor/avatar from the amiable Magic J. to the infamous Tuco (Good, Bad, Ugly)
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08-18-2005, 10:30 AM #11
Close Iron,
It was from http://forums.steroid.com/showthrea...ight=clen+cycle
Again my apologies Boss.
Triple XXX made me change my demeanor/avatar from the amiable Magic J. to the infamous Tuco (Good, Bad, Ugly)
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08-18-2005, 10:35 AM #12Originally Posted by magic32
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08-18-2005, 10:35 AM #13Originally Posted by magic32
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08-18-2005, 10:48 AM #14
Did you recognize Tuco or have you seen the movie? If not, here is his list of crimes:
Big Eastwood western fan.
Tuco made the movie though. Do you guys remember his list of crimes? hahhaha, dig this:
"Wanted in fourteen counties of this State, the condemned is found guilty of murder, armed robbery of citizens, state banks, and post offices; the theft of sacred objects, arson in a state prison, perjury, bigamy, deserting his wife and children, inciting prostitution, kidnapping, extortion, receiving stolen goods, selling stolen goods, passing counterfeit money, and contrary to the laws of this State the condemned is guilty of using marked cards and loaded dice..."
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