Tren/Test/Anavar cycle....???

[maximus193]

Hi Guys,

I'm planning this new (5th) cycle:

Week 1-6 (8): test cycpionate 500mg
Week 1-6 (8): tren enanthate 400mg
Week 1-6 (8): anavar 100mg ED

Weight is about 255-260 @ 6.1" BF is about 15%

Trying to create a lean bulk here.
I'd also like to do a short cycle again.

My previous cycle cycle was 50mg D-bol ED and 1gram Tets enanthate.
Gained 20 pounds in 4 weeks. Some fat and blot, but loads of muscle.
AND after the cycle, most strength gains and mass was retained; even after that water left my system.

What do you think of this cycle?

[tempbrit]

Those Esters you are running are awfully long for a short cycle. I ran a similar cycle with Test C, Tren A, and Var. The results were awesome but I did a 12 weeker. I gained and leaned out at the same time.

I noticed that you are running Tren E. I am hoping you have run Tren before. If you don't like it, you will have sides for a couple of weeks. I would strongly encourage you to consider Tren A and shoot ED.

The compounds you have selected are perfect for a lean bulking cycle, but I think you should run them longer. Especially if you have to stick with the long Esters.

[maximus193]

Know what you mean Tempbrit, but in my previous cycle I also used Test Enanthate.
I frontloaded with 2gr then switeched to 1gram per week for 4 weeks.
By week 2-3 I was blowing up.
Did use D-bol....

I have never used Tren Enanthate, but my training partner and loads of guys in my gym also. No-one had any problems, and I'm one of the bigger guys. (but that doens't make it naturally right...)

I also hate to inject every other day. I usually get so sore that I can't sit behind my desk or even train.

Used Tren before for 2 weeks, but it was probably fake. The injections were so painfull and the cramps were insane. I litterally had to crawl out of bed in the morning.

[longhorn814]

if you want to run a short cycle, you definitely have to run short esters such as test prop and tren a, which will require ed shots. Cyp and enth esters take 4-5 weeks to kick in and start seeing results.

Try something like this:

1-10 75-100mg prop ed
1-8 50-75 mg tren a ed
4-10 60mg var ed

I dont know if you need 100mg var ed, I get good results at 60

[maximus193]

Thanks longhorn, but I have an 'issue' with injection each day or EOD.....

Past experiences haven't been good for my week job!

[G-Force]

yeah if u wana do a short cycle use prop instead of cyp, and use tren A

i'm currently running these two along with 50mg Var

i'm running it for 12 weeks
but you could shorten it to 8 if u wanted

[G-Force]

Thanks longhorn, but I have an 'issue' with injection each day or EOD.....

Past experiences haven't been good for my week job!

you get used to the injections - they dont hurt after a week or 2

[maximus193]

I can deal with the pain, no problem.
But's the lumps in my @ss that get the best of ma during my day job.
Training also sucks then. Can't do a squat or anything that put's to much pressure on my @ss.

Again, the issue is not pain.

Anothe rissue is also me having awesome rresults from cycles that only lasted 4-6 weeks.
A 4 week cyle continued to be 'active' during week 6. But side effects were minimal and gains were kept 80% (except the bloat)

[longhorn814]

do you rotate your injection sites or do you only do glute shots? Try rotating them around. I rotate glutes, quads, delts, and tris. That way I never have to shoot in the same spot more than once a week. One of these days Im gonna do chest shots too.

[Booz]

too short for the longer actin esters mate,you prob blew up on your last one coz of the d-bol,as the test and tren can take upto 5-6 weeks to start seein any gains,i would extend the cycle or use the shorter actin esters.

[maximus193]

@ Longhorn, yeah I usually rotate sites, but 1 time I injected Sust in my leg and couldn't walk straight for 1 week. Weeks later I still had a strange 'hole' in my right leg, very strange....

@ Booz, yeah, think it was also the d-bol on my previous cycle.

After reading "Building the perfect beast" I did some testing on my own and I did find that short term heavy cycles gave me the best long term results. I kept most of the gains.

When you think of it, it seems very logical. The longer a foreign substance is in your body, the more countermeasures your body takes....

Perhaps I need justification for doing another short cycle.

I think I'll just start with my cyle as above and see what happens. If the gains in the first 6 weeks are good, then I'm going to quit, if they start happening after week 5 then I'll do it a little bit longer.