opinions on cycle

[Kdog@usi]

this boys and girls will be my third cycle. the first was test/ dbol, the second test/eq. I have decided on tren ace and prop, but am pondering including var or winny. I would like to try var, but do not have access to powder now so it is very expensive. Winny isn't too pricey, but I have irritating shoulder problems (that I just have to work around) and I am afraid the winny will agravate it.
Does anyone have experience with joint trouble and winny??

Also I was going to start my tren at a fairly low dose to see how I react, but what should be the lowest I should start at?

Do most people run letro with their tren cycles?

stats 24yrs old
240lb 5'11

thanks in advance for input guys

[RoidGut]

I started out at 50 mg ed and went up from there....don't think you want to go lower than that, especially for a guy your size.

[tonytone]

yeah i would start the tren out at 50 mg ED

[Kdog@usi]

will start the tren at 50mg, I figued 400-450 per week, but will definatly start a bit lower. How long before sides start to appear?
anyone on the winny q?