can they test for kynoselen?

**MMA** · 09-03-2005, 02:49 PM

is kynoselen a banned substance, and can they test for it? what about ATP and Carnosine injections?

PLEASE, do not answer if you don't know the answer and are just guessing.

**Son Of Khadafi** · 09-03-2005, 03:05 PM

"Kynoselen is not a drug; it is however a veterinarian quality injectable vitamin/mineral supplement. It contains potassium, Adenosine mono-phosphate (AMP), magnesium, and B-12. The vitamins/minerals in Kyno are important possess no performance enhancement abilities. It appears as if the AMP is the misunderstood component of Kyno."

Paul Cribb

**Son Of Khadafi** · 09-03-2005, 03:08 PM

I would say no, they cannot test for it or the ATP or carnosine, they are all natural to your body. Whose to say that the levels they get from a test aren't your "natural" levels

**juicehoe** · 09-03-2005, 07:17 PM

Just playing devils advocate... test is natural in your body too. Its the acceptable range they look at

Originally Posted by Son Of Khadafi

I would say no, they cannot test for it or the ATP or carnosine, they are all natural to your body. Whose to say that the levels they get from a test aren't your "natural" levels

**MMA** · 09-04-2005, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by juicehoe

Just playing devils advocate... test is natural in your body too. Its the acceptable range they look at

correct juicehoe (great name!). many "natural" substances (testosterone , hemocrit levels) are tested to see if the levels are "superhuman". don't know if they're doing that with ATP and carnosine yet. anyone?

**MMA** · 09-04-2005, 11:00 PM

Bueller? Bueller?

**macrophage69alpha** · 09-05-2005, 03:04 AM

heptaminol, the "supposed active" in kynoselen (its an anti-hypotensive- with unknown method of action) WILL make to test positive for amphetamines- its cross reactive with the 2 most commonly used tests.

btw- IMO kynoselen is an absolute waste of money- really wasteful, comparatively, in some cases- since bottles of vetoquinol and kynoselen go for about 12$ in australia.

**MMA** · 09-05-2005, 11:59 PM

thanks macro, you saved me a positive. i know kynoselen is almost worthless for bodybuilding, but i'm looking for anything that will help my endurance (and can't tested for). any suggestions? and i'm not doing EPO again, scared.