Starting cycle

[doonya]

Hey guys. I'm starting my cycle of Dbal and test.
When do I take nolvadex? I was told 4 days before the cycle then someone else said after, which one is right.
Also do need a PCT too?

[doonya]

Please help, this will be my first.

[hulkzer]

if this is your first cycle i would drop the dbol. test should be ran about 500mg/wk(mon,thurs). if your not gyno pron the just stick to l-dex .25 ed or eod and keep the nolva for pct or if you see any signs of gyno.
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[doonya]

Thanks bro but I got the dbal already is it bad to use it first time out?

[bignatt]

You should still run nolva at 10mg/day for you rlipid profiel throughout your cycle

[bignatt]

also if your gona use the dbol use it no higher than 20mg/day its your first time your not gonna need that much and no longer than 4 weeks

[hulkzer]

Thanks bro but I got the dbal already is it bad to use it first time out?

not really, don't go higher than 30mg a day. take milk thisle and keep hydrated. its good to see how your body reacts to one compound the next time start staking to see what works for you. jmo
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[doonya]

Thanks guys.
What about this Clomi and Letro on this site, is that cool to buy?

[bignatt]

Look up pheednos PCT that should explain what you need to know

[ODC0717]

you can get all you pct needs with the exception of hcg as ar-r.com. Yes, all their products are good. If you go with the letro then you wouldn't need to run ldex at the same time, because they are both AI's.

[bignatt]

Id go ldex instead of letro

[doonya]

So I can do letro as anti-Es and Clomi as PCT or thats not enough?

[bignatt]

ldex nolva and clomid refer to pheednos pct in the pct section

[ODC0717]

ldex nolva and clomid refer to pheednos pct in the pct section

thought I'd do the work since you've recomended it twice...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626

read that and you should know better what and when you'll need to begin PCT.

[bignatt]

haha thank you odc sometimes you just have to everything and im just not motivated currently

[doonya]

Yeah thanks I appreciate the wisdom.

[ODC0717]

haha thank you odc sometimes you just have to everything and im just not motivated currently

That's why I'm here bro.

[bigJJ]

Coming from one who just finished the Dbol section of his cycle... Definately use the anti-E (whichever one you choose) while on. I went almost two weeks without one (just to test a theory) and the bloating was stupid/ridiculous.

I started using 10mg of nolva (tamox) starting on (almost) week three. About four days after I started it, I finally didn't feel like I was going to pass a watermelon anymore.

Great size gains, just use that anti-E the whole time. IMHO

BTW... No signs of gyno, just bloating. Used Naposims. Used Tamox from AR-R. And yes, my sodium intake was probably a little too high (can't always blame the suppliments)