Winter Bulker

[Darkness]

OK I'm getting ready for my winter bulker cycle (4th overall) and was looking to get a cycle with better gains (less water weight)

I've done the good ol test e EQ dbol cycle before, but was woundering that if I do a 14 week test e 12 deca and 4 dbol would let get more retainable gains after PCT. So will deca give me more muscle fiber than EQ or vice versa?
Goal is to gain 30 and keep 20. Tell me what do you guys think.

Stats:
25yo
6'1
220
10%
7 years lifting
Good diet.

Later

[Pinnacle]

OK I'm getting ready for my winter bulker cycle (4th overall) and was looking to get a cycle with better gains (less water weight)

I've done the good ol test e EQ dbol cycle before, but was woundering that if I do a 14 week test e 12 deca and 4 dbol would let get more retainable gains after PCT. So will deca give me more muscle fiber than EQ or vice versa?
Goal is to gain 30 and keep 20. Tell me what do you guys think.

Stats:
25yo
6'1
220
10%
7 years lifting
Good diet.

Later

Test/Deca/Dbol= mass

What doses you thinking about running?

~Pinnacle~

[Darkness]

Test e 600 EW
Deca or EQ 600mgs EW
Dbol 50mgs ED

[Pinnacle]

Test e 600 EW
Deca or EQ 600mgs EW
Dbol 50mgs ED

750 Test
600 Deca
50 mg Dbol

~Pinnacle~

[Ejuicer]

Test should be 100 higher then deca.
What have your previous doses been like?

[Darkness]

Previous were 500 test and 400 eq 40 dbol

[Ejuicer]

You could still get away with 500 test and 400 deca since it's a new compound for you. There's also the option of bumping it up right away to pinnacles stated doses.

[Darkness]

True, since I'm using deca this time I guess I could keep the doses down to 500. But like I said I want to be able to keep 20lbs. After all is said and done cause I dont want to jump on tren for another 2 or 3 cycles.

[RoidGut]

I would personally swap the dbol and use drol instead. I have used dbol befor with test in my first cycle and gained big time. But the minute I stopped the dbol, i deflated like a large balloon.

It is expected to lose size after stopping dbol but it is still depressing none the less.

I am now using drol at a dose of 150 mg ed...IMO it is a much better compound to use, and contrary to popular opinion, SAFER than dbol. My gains are very clean at the moment...no water bloat, and actually I am getting more defined...go figure!

[Darkness]

Hmmm never tried drol, I just like the dbol to jumpstart the cycle, I will still have 10 more weeks of test and 8 of deca after dbol. What do you advise then?

[Pinnacle]

I would personally swap the dbol and use drol instead. I have used dbol befor with test in my first cycle and gained big time. But the minute I stopped the dbol, i deflated like a large balloon.

It is expected to lose size after stopping dbol but it is still depressing none the less.

I am now using drol at a dose of 150 mg ed...IMO it is a much better compound to use, and contrary to popular opinion, SAFER than dbol. My gains are very clean at the moment...no water bloat, and actually I am getting more defined...go figure!

Let's get the Anadrol wave going..


~Pinnacle~

[Ejuicer]

I'd go with the drol too if I were you. Way better results then from d-bol.

[powerliftmike]

funny post pinnacle

More muscle fiber? AASs only increase fiber size, not fiber amount...

[Darkness]

Let's get the Anadrol wave going..


~Pinnacle~

lol so will the drol jumpstart as fiercely as the dbol? And I can get the drol cheaper than dbol so I wouldnt mind! But this new UG lab I go through makes 10mg dbol tabs with 2.5mgs of nolva in it so that should keep the bloat down a little wouldnt you think?

[RoidGut]

I liked dbol when I was taking it also....but hated it when I came off. What is the point to jumpstart your cycle and get all big only to lose most of these gains shortly after?

Run the drol exactly the same way you would run dbol....it too is used to jumpstart the cycle and some even finish off the last 4 wks with it. The results are amazing (if the proper dose is used) and better yet, they stay with you for the most part. The bloating is very minimal, and the gains are solid.

You have nothing to lose and everything to gain IMO

Hmmm never tried drol, I just like the dbol to jumpstart the cycle, I will still have 10 more weeks of test and 8 of deca after dbol. What do you advise then?

[Pinnacle]

lol so will the drol jumpstart as fiercely as the dbol? And I can get the drol cheaper than dbol so I wouldnt mind! But this new UG lab I go through makes 10mg dbol tabs with 2.5mgs of nolva in it so that should keep the bloat down a little wouldnt you think?

Honestly,you'll get a lot of water retention from Dbol.Not really any keepable mass.
You'll get some retention from drol as well,but your mass will be much more keepable.Drol really is the way to go on this bro.Don't fool around.Do the right gear to get the job done correctly.You can thank me later.


This is KING ANADROL from Massadonia!!!



~Pinnacle~

[Darkness]

I liked dbol when I was taking it also....but hated it when I came off. What is the point to jumpstart your cycle and get all big only to lose most of these gains shortly after?

Run the drol exactly the same way you would run dbol....it too is used to jumpstart the cycle and some even finish off the last 4 wks with it. The results are amazing (if the proper dose is used) and better yet, they stay with you for the most part. The bloating is very minimal, and the gains are solid.

You have nothing to lose and everything to gain IMO

Hmm this may be a good change then! So do the 1st 4 weeks with drol and finish the last 4 with it?

[Pinnacle]

Hmm this may be a good change then! So do the 1st 4 weeks with drol and finish the last 4 with it?

That's how I always run Drol.5 weeks up front,5 weeks at the end.Gets you nice and hard for PCT.You'll love it.
Don't do less than 100 mgs ED either!!!

~Pinnacle~

[StayJuicen34]

Sorry to steal your thread but I had a cycle and wanted to know what you guys thought about it

Week 1-4: Anadrol 50mg ED

Week 2-5 Test Enanthate 400mg, EQ 200mg, Test Propinate 50mg ED

Week 6-15 Test Enanthate 400mg, EQ 200mg

During Cycle Taking: Proviron 25mg ED, Nolvadex 10mg ED, Vitamin B-12 injections.

Off Cycle: 10,000IU's, Clomid 50mg's 32tabs .

Wanted to know what you thought about this cycle and if I wanted to add winstrol to the cycle when would be the best time to add it. Also when would be the best time to start the Anadrol and at what mg's and how long. If you you can critque this cycle and make it better bro's I'm open to Ideas.

[Pinnacle]

Sorry to steal your thread but I had a cycle and wanted to know what you guys thought about it

Week 1-4: Anadrol 50mg ED

Week 2-5 Test Enanthate 400mg, EQ 200mg, Test Propinate 50mg ED

Week 6-15 Test Enanthate 400mg, EQ 200mg

During Cycle Taking: Proviron 25mg ED, Nolvadex 10mg ED, Vitamin B-12 injections.

Off Cycle: 10,000IU's, Clomid 50mg's 32tabs .

Wanted to know what you thought about this cycle and if I wanted to add winstrol to the cycle when would be the best time to add it. Also when would be the best time to start the Anadrol and at what mg's and how long. If you you can critque this cycle and make it better bro's I'm open to Ideas.

You should have started your own thread.But since you're here already.
Anadrol is too low.Minimum 100 mgs ED(WK 1-4)

EQ is way to low.Needs to be 400 mgs wkly minimum.

No need for the Prop in there at the beginning.You should use it at the end for this cycle.

Winny from wk 12-18 at 50 mgs ED

Start prop at 50 mgs ED at week 15 thru 18.This will let the Test and EQ clear,but you'll still be getting gains from the Prop/Winny.

~Pinnacle~

[topvega]

Sorry to steal your thread but I had a cycle and wanted to know what you guys thought about it

Week 1-4: Anadrol 50mg ED

Week 2-5 Test Enanthate 400mg, EQ 200mg, Test Propinate 50mg ED

Week 6-15 Test Enanthate 400mg, EQ 200mg

During Cycle Taking: Proviron 25mg ED, Nolvadex 10mg ED, Vitamin B-12 injections.

Off Cycle: 10,000IU's, Clomid 50mg's 32tabs .

Wanted to know what you thought about this cycle and if I wanted to add winstrol to the cycle when would be the best time to add it. Also when would be the best time to start the Anadrol and at what mg's and how long. If you you can critque this cycle and make it better bro's I'm open to Ideas.

i wld run the drol at 100mgs and the test e at 500mg the eq at 400mg and just leave the prop out...jmo

[Darkness]

That's how I always run Drol.5 weeks up front,5 weeks at the end.Gets you nice and hard for PCT.You'll love it.
Don't do less than 100 mgs ED either!!!

~Pinnacle~

Yeah my guy makes 75mg caps of drol so I'll make it 150mg ED.

[Pinnacle]

Yeah my guy makes 75mg caps of drol so I'll make it 150mg ED.

That's perfect bro.Remember to split the dose AM/PM.You're gonna love Drol.Mad strength gains.And size to boot.

~Pinnacle~

[Ejuicer]

Yeah my guy makes 75mg caps of drol so I'll make it 150mg ED.

75 would be good for you. There's no need for 150 for a first timer.

[Pinnacle]

75 would be good for you. There's no need for 150 for a first timer.

You know us crazy Americans.We supersize everything!!Cycles included!IMO 75 is a little to low.100 is OK.150 awesome.200 insane(my doses )

~Pinnacle~

[Darkness]

Thats cool 75 ED and if need be I can do another 75 eod.

[Pinnacle]

Thats cool 75 ED and if need be I can do another 75 eod.

You going to split a 75 mg cap into 2 doses ED?That's a rash to do.


~Pinnacle~

[Darkness]

You going to split a 75 mg cap into 2 doses ED?That's a rash to do.


~Pinnacle~

Huh? No I said I would take 2 if need be. But going to aim for 1 cap ED.

[bignatt]

Whereabouts in boston are you from?

[bignatt]

i think even 50 would be fine

[Darkness]

Whereabouts in boston are you from?

South Shore, you?

[bignatt]

i used to live in the lowell area

[Pinnacle]

Huh? No I said I would take 2 if need be. But going to aim for 1 cap ED.

What I'm saying is,drol needs to be split into 2 doses daily.You follow me now?75 mg once a day isn't correct procedure.37.5 mgs 2x daily is best.

~Pinnacle~

[Darkness]

What I'm saying is,drol needs to be split into 2 doses daily.You follow me now?75 mg once a day isn't correct procedure.37.5 mgs 2x daily is best.

~Pinnacle~

Ohh I see what you're saying...well this guy only have 75mg caps. I guess I'm gonna have to chop these fockers in half then. Or just take the plung and take 2 a day!

[chest6]

Ohh I see what you're saying...well this guy only have 75mg caps. I guess I'm gonna have to chop these fockers in half then. Or just take the plung and take 2 a day!

I dont know man..being your first time 75 a day should be more than enough to give you huge gains. I would just cut those fu**ers in half and take AM/PM doses like the man pinnacle said

[Darkness]

I dont know man..being your first time 75 a day should be more than enough to give you huge gains. I would just cut those fu**ers in half and take AM/PM doses like the man pinnacle said

I guess thats what's gonna have to happen then

[chest6]

I guess thats what's gonna have to happen then

let us know how that works for ya when you start up

[goalseeker]

I did 100/ed, first 4 weeks for my first cycle, and loved it. IMO, it is way better than dbol..way better...I coulda got some bunk dbol, its possible, but For my second cycle Im gonna up the drol to 150ed anyways. I love the stuff...

[chest6]

I did 100/ed, first 4 weeks for my first cycle, and loved it. IMO, it is way better than dbol..way better...I coulda got some bunk dbol, its possible, but For my second cycle Im gonna up the drol to 150ed anyways. I love the stuff...

how many times u ran drol previously?

[ODC0717]

I agree with 100mg. 50mg for me was making me pissed. You hear all this crazy shit about drol and how you'll blow up on it but that wasn't the case with me and my daily dose of 50mg. Next time I'm gonna go with 100mg min. Perhaps up to 150mg...