For my next cycle I'm going to run EQ DECA and VAR... it is intended to help my joints out mostly and put some much needed size back on.... but I'm only going to run 400mg/EQ and 300mg/ Deca or less... I mean... I can take as much as I want... but I think the lower dosage would be best for me as I don't want to take test this time around.... makes me bloated and angry... (here comes the flaming!) i see plenty of people that don't take test that get plenty of size.... if your going for the OPTIMAL growth from a cycle I would say Test is a must... but if your willing to trade in being an angry monster (which I am on Test) in for being a little bit lathargic and possibly having some trouble with the little guy.... then I say don't be a sheep motha f*cka! cuz almost everyone who bashes a testless cycle has never even done it... I'm thinking of taking some Trib while I'm on though just to try and help my natural production.. and when hasn't ephedra made me a supercharged beast in the gym... that and a lot of Cialis JUST IN CASE... wish me luck! (someone else out there should try this too! i know I'm not the only one with the brass tacks around here!)