Ditch the Deca?

[Need2bBigger]

I am fixing to start a new cycle and planned on running test e, deca, dbol, and nolva. From what I have read in other threads, it sounds like deca is more trouble than its worth. Any comments on this thought would be helpful. I was planning on running test e, deca, and nolva for weeks 1-10 and dbol weeks 1-4. Would I be better off just running the test e and nolva weeks 1-10 and dbol 1-4? or would i get much larger gains with the deca. Also is the nolva completely necessary if i don't use deca? Btw, from my last cycle with test e my nipples got a little bigger and it is noticable. Is this what gyno is and what will help fix it? Would test c be any better to use than test e?

[testosterona]

ok lots of questions here but i'll do my best. first off, add the deca if it's your second cycle, it is said to help with size and strenght during cycle and will help solidify gains. YOU NEED NOLVA EVEN WITHOUT DECA, you wonder why you got gyno from your last cycle, there's your answer. For your nips get some letro from aar, this will help reverse your current condition. test e is fine.
good mass cycle:
Test e 500mg wk 1-11
deca 400mg wk 1-10
d-bol 30mg wk 1-4
nolva 10-20mgs a day throughout
proper pct

hope this helps.... good luck

[punchrf]

i have bloating issues with deca but most of my buddies don't. deca for me is great in all factors but bloating. you'll never know how you'll like it till you try it. test, deca, dbol is my favorite combo for bulking. i would run the deca 12 weeks and the test e 13 though. i generally make most of my gains from deca deep in cycle.

[chest6]

deca has some problems if ran alone. As long as you run test with it, you will be fine. I ran deca alone and it f*cked me up to say the least. I like the cycle testosterona laid out but I would extend the test to at least 12 and deca 11 if not 13. Letro wont for sure reverse his situation..but it can't hurt.

[Need2bBigger]

Alright thanks for all the help guys. About the letro... when should i take it and how much?

[Hellmaskbanned]

deca has some problems if ran alone. As long as you run test with it, you will be fine. I ran deca alone and it f*cked me up to say the least. I like the cycle testosterona laid out but I would extend the test to at least 12 and deca 11 if not 13. Letro wont for sure reverse his situation..but it can't hurt.

I hear alot about deca fvcking this and that person up. Tell how? im curious, is it just that your little guy wont get exicited while on? or is it something more serious?

[testosterona]

deca only= tired all day, no energy, night sweats, bitch in the gym, the sex drive of ozzy osbourne without the viagra, depression. I experienced most of these before i included test in my cycle. this debate will never end, some can get away with it some can't, why risk it

[stupidhippo]

Ive read numerous times that deca should be run longer than 11 weeks, to get the most out of it.. ne1 clarify on that?