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[throwinweights]

ok why do so many people suggest taking winnie with mass cycles? isn't the point of mass cycles to accumulate water (along with red blood cells) for strength gains that are going to stress your muscles to a whole new level. this didnt make sense to my cousin or i, me researching a lot and him knowin dan duchaine for years and being his guinea pig right before his death. he never took winnie during a mass cycle and had great results. his only cycle of a-bomb packed on 38lbs.... 26 of which he kept afterwards. i just think you hinder results if you don't allow your body to retain water since strength comes from muscle contractions and the more water the stronger contraction you can accomplish. anyone hit me back with your thoughts on this

[redmeat]

What? Water and red blood cells? When I do a bulk cycle my goal is just to gain as much lean body mass as I can.

[throwinweights]

but the reason you gain lean mass is because steroids increase water retention and red blood cell production. water retention is what makes your strength go up since contraction is stronger with more water. the red blood cell increase is what makes you recover quicker and synthesize more protein... making you grow faster. winnie is a muscle saver during dieting, so why hinder water retention unless under suspicion?

[redmeat]

but the reason you gain lean mass is because steroids increase water retention and red blood cell production. water retention is what makes your strength go up since contraction is stronger with more water. the red blood cell increase is what makes you recover quicker and synthesize more protein... making you grow faster. winnie is a muscle saver during dieting, so why hinder water retention unless under suspicion?

If that were true, you could gain tons of muscle by eating a high sodium diet and taking EPO.

[throwinweights]

If that were true, you could gain tons of muscle by eating a high sodium diet and taking EPO.

yeah except that it retains a lot of water within the muscle cells. and the red blood cell production is what takes oxygen to your muscles. ever notice you get winded if you don't do cardio on a cycle. it's because your red blood cells are delivering the oxygen to all the new weight you have and your lungs aren't accustomed to that and can't handle it.

[oceanrun]

but the reason you gain lean mass is because steroids increase water retention and red blood cell production. water retention is what makes your strength go up since contraction is stronger with more water. the red blood cell increase is what makes you recover quicker and synthesize more protein... making you grow faster. winnie is a muscle saver during dieting, so why hinder water retention unless under suspicion?

I am in a cycle now with test and Winstrol Tabs so I want to

Need to here what people think about what he has suggested?

[itsdarock]

Oceanrun,do you know what it means to hijack a thread?

[throwinweights]

lol no im a rookie whats that mean? someone had the same post or im making too many comments?

[oceanrun]

Oceanrun,do you know what it means to hijack a thread?

What are you talking about??

[guildwars05]

tru dat ^^^^^

[oceanrun]

What are you talking about He told us about this and so I wanted more info on it.

What start a new thread? That is just BS