test cyp help

[THEjuiceISloose73]

for a first time cycle my friend wants to run test cyp and winny how long should it be run at what doses and what week schedule

[thejuiceisloose]

How old is your "friend?" And what are "his" stats? Training experience??

[shortie]

How old is your FRIEND?
How tall is your FRIEND?
How many years has your FRIEND been lifting?
How much does your FRIEND weigh?
What are your FRIEND's goals?

We need a little help in order to help you.

[shortie]

How old is your "friend?" And what are "his" stats? Training experience??

He types faster than me!

[THEjuiceISloose73]

my friend is 6 foot 180 been train 3 years and he is 22

[THEjuiceISloose73]

his goals are to gain some muscle and lean out too actually 185 he wights

[IBdmfkr]

I would recommend to just try Cyp. at 400mg/wk for 10-12weeks. Have nolvadex on hand and clomid for Post Cycle. His diet will be the deciding factor for his results.

[thejuiceisloose]

are you sure youre asking for your friend or is this for you? You can go with Test cyp @ 500mg/wk for 12 weeks. Nolva 20mg/ED, and PCT setup. I would advise your friend to get on here and ask on his own, you cant possibly think for him

[THEjuiceISloose73]

no im doing a test e and deca cycle he is doing test cyp and winny he wants what are winny doese and at what weeks

[thejuiceisloose]

no im doing a test e and deca cycle he is doing test cyp and winny he wants what are winny doese and at what weeks

winny @ 50mg/ED for weeks 1-4

[IBdmfkr]

I'm not a big fan of winny. More of a precontest drug IMO. Hard on your joints, hairline, etc... JIS73, remember your 19 and your friend is 22. I would recommend waiting another year or two, you still have a lot of natural potential.

[THEjuiceISloose73]

so winny first 4 weeks or last 4
i dont know if he is gonna use it or not i just wanna know to make sure

[thejuiceisloose]

so winny first 4 weeks or last 4
i dont know if he is gonna use it or not i just wanna know to make sure

Whichever he'd like. some people like it in the beginning some @ the end

[IBdmfkr]

Personally when I did it, I used it for 5-6weeks at the end. For example,
Test cyp at 4-500mg/wk 1-12. Winny 50mg/day wks 8-14. 2 bottles should last around 40 days. End the winny 2 weeks after test and start PCT a couple days after winny is discontinued. There are other approaches, this is what worked best for me.

[THEjuiceISloose73]

thanks a lot guys