first test cycle question

**bward8503** · 09-21-2005, 03:02 PM

im going to do my first cycle of either test e or test c
i was wondering what to go with....vial or bottle? i know it might be a dumb question but like it will be listed as 200mg-2ml bottle or
200mg-10ml

basically is a vial one serving? and a bottle would be 5??
also do you think test e might be better to do first b/c id like to inject less its just i read its better to continuely egt it into your system

thanks

**shortie** · 09-21-2005, 03:08 PM

To me, and maybe I am wrong so that would be ok to correct me but I have always thought of VIAL=Bottle and single serve=amp. As far as which one to chose, I like E, but others prefer Cyp, but they have roughly the same half-life so their inj frequency shouldn't be any different. And I prefer bottles, easier to deal with than 100 amps floatin around you medicine drawer.

**thejuiceisloose** · 09-21-2005, 03:09 PM

Test E and Test Cyp for our purposes are almost the same thing. Are you asking how the vial or bottle measurements will be listed?

**bward8503** · 09-21-2005, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose

Test E and Test Cyp for our purposes are almost the same thing. Are you asking how the vial or bottle measurements will be listed?

i have seen how theyre listed...just not sure which to get and how the servings work out. How many injections does a 10ml bottle last? they list it as 10ml-200mg
but id be injecting 250mg
its all just a little confusing to me and wanted to see if anyone could clear it up on which route to take and how many bottles or vials i would need?
dont you inject 250mg twice a week? so 24 vials?
how mnay 10ml bottles would that be?

**thejuiceisloose** · 09-21-2005, 04:00 PM

How long are you planning on running your cycle?

**bward8503** · 09-21-2005, 08:35 PM

i was thinkin 10 or 12 weeks

**Ejuicer** · 09-21-2005, 08:39 PM

3 bottles are need for 12 weeks

**Wildcatbadass** · 09-21-2005, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by bward8503

i have seen how theyre listed...just not sure which to get and how the servings work out. How many injections does a 10ml bottle last? they list it as 10ml-200mg
but id be injecting 250mg
its all just a little confusing to me and wanted to see if anyone could clear it up on which route to take and how many bottles or vials i would need?
dont you inject 250mg twice a week? so 24 vials?
how mnay 10ml bottles would that be?

As shortie said vial equals bottle same difference. An amp is a serving basically. It might hold 250mg/1ml. Where as a vial/bottle might hold 250mg/10ml and bigger bottles/vials might hold 250mg/50ml. So if you bottle/vial is listed at 200mg/10ml and you want to inject 500mg a week for 10 wks that
500mg * 10= 5000mg total.
And so 200mg * x = 5000mg. you'll need 25ml at 200mg.
thats 2.5 vials.

About that injecting 250mg twice a week. it would be 1 ml(200mg) + .25ml(50mg).

Keep researching and get used to the conversions more. Glad that you asked before hand.

**bward8503** · 09-21-2005, 10:21 PM

ok the source i have gotten from b4 has test e 20 for 300
about the going rate?
should i start right off the bat injected every 3 days?
20 amps at 250/ml each would cover twice a week for 10 weeks correct?
just inject the entire amp at once time?

**bward8503** · 09-21-2005, 11:05 PM

bump

**IBdmfkr** · 09-21-2005, 11:36 PM

Do you mean 20 amps that are 250mg/amp for 300$. That is extremely expensive. 20ml should not run you more than 150$ max.

**Ejuicer** · 09-22-2005, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by bward8503

20 amps at 250/ml each would cover twice a week for 10 weeks correct?
just inject the entire amp at once time?

Yes 20 amps would last 10 weeks
Yes, shoot it all.

**bward8503** · 09-22-2005, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Do you mean 20 amps that are 250mg/amp for 300$. That is extremely expensive. 20ml should not run you more than 150$ max.

ok so 20 amps or 2.5 bottles if i go with test e but test c you inject eod right? so that would end up being more expensive?

cheapest i could find was 10 bucks an amp

**Ejuicer** · 09-22-2005, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by bward8503

ok so 20 amps or 2.5 bottles if i go with test e but test c you inject eod right? so that would end up being more expensive?

cheapest i could find was 10 bucks an amp

Test cyp is a longer ester then enanthate . It only needs to be shot twice a week as well. Cyp is normally around the same price as enan.
Also, instead of using 2 1/2 bottles I would just make it a 12 week cycle and use 3.

**bward8503** · 09-22-2005, 12:21 PM

what about 200mg/2ml amp
half one day half another day
would 400mg a week be enough for starting out?
or would i want to increase the dosage in later weeks?
im also going to stack it with dbol for the first 4 weeks

**Gra** · 09-22-2005, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by bward8503

ok so 20 amps or 2.5 bottles if i go with test e but test c you inject eod right? so that would end up being more expensive?

cheapest i could find was 10 bucks an amp

Test cyp should be injected twice a week, just as test e. It both have about the same halflife. Price would be about the same. You run test cyp 500mg aweek to.

**Drummerboy** · 09-22-2005, 12:23 PM

i would take the test Cyp. There is slightly less ester weight and more test per mg. And, get the bottle, at 200mg/ml so you dont have to inject so much oil. Cyp should be painless at 200mg/ml. take 1 ml E3D. That should do you well. Good luck, its a great way to start.

**bward8503** · 09-22-2005, 12:31 PM

ok i understand now....that testcyp has 200mg per 2ml
i would want one that has that in 1ml
damn thought id save some money! lol

**bward8503** · 09-22-2005, 09:44 PM

can i get some opinions on omnadren for my first cycle
im kind of limited on money
i was thinkin 400mg of omnadren a week spread out every 3 days for 10 weeks and 30mg dbol for wk 1-4
im currently 5'10 205 and im in my early 20s so my natural test should be fairly high so i dont think id have to go crazy with the amount i shoot?

**Drummerboy** · 09-22-2005, 09:56 PM

your natty test doesnt matter, it will be suppressed.

**bward8503** · 09-22-2005, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Drummerboy

your natty test doesnt matter, it will be suppressed.

ok so just keep it simple and go with test c or test e and injext 250mg twice a week is the minimum dosage to see some good gains? b/c i read test e can be injected every 7 days but that would be 500mg at that one time im guessing so really no difference

**Wildcatbadass** · 09-22-2005, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by bward8503

ok so just keep it simple and go with test c or test e and injext 250mg twice a week is the minimum dosage to see some good gains? b/c i read test e can be injected every 7 days but that would be 500mg at that one time im guessing so really no difference

Correct, now your learning Bro

**bward8503** · 09-26-2005, 08:53 PM

i know of a good source but can only get andropen 275
i know its good but heard it hurts like a bitch
or
i could get vet roids....and id with with cyp but heard that hurts like a bitch too
i dont want my first injection to be the roughest and discourage me
does it hurt right when u do it bad or the pain eveyrone talks about the next day?