Thread: dbol a month or 6 weeks
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09-21-2005, 03:25 PM #1
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09-21-2005, 03:29 PM #2
What would be better is to find some test ASAP. Youre nuts doing dbol for a month OR 6 weeks, youre going to need a liver transplant by then.
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09-21-2005, 03:40 PM #3Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
Anabolic steroid -induced hepatotoxicity: Is it overstated?
Clin J Sport Med 1999 Jan;9(1):34-9 (ISSN: 1050-642X)
Dickerman RD; Pertusi RM; Zachariah NY; Dufour DR; McConathy WJ
The Department of Biomedical Science, University of North Texas Health Science Center, Fort Worth 76107-2699, USA.
OBJECTIVE: There have been numerous reports of hepatic dysfunction secondary to anabolic steroid use based on elevated levels of serum aminotransferases. This study was conducted to distinguish between serum aminotransaminase elevations secondary to intense resistance training and anabolic steroid-induced hepatotoxicity in elite bodybuilders.
DESIGN: This was a case-control study of serum chemistry profiles from bodybuilders using and not using anabolic steroids with comparisons to a cohort of medical students and patients with hepatitis.
PARTICIPANTS: The participants were bodybuilders taking self-directed regimens of anabolic steroids (n = 15) and bodybuilders not taking steroids (n = 10). Blood chemistry profiles from patients with viral hepatitis (n = 49) and exercising and nonexercising medical students (592) were used as controls.
MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: The focus in blood chemistry profiles was aspartate aminotransferase (AST), alanine aminotransferase (ALT), gamma-glutamyltranspeptidase (GGT), and creatine kinase (CK) levels.
RESULTS: In both groups of bodybuilders, CK, AST, and ALT were elevated, whereas GGT remained in the normal range. In contrast, patients with hepatitis had elevations of all three enzymes: ALT, AST, and GGT. Creatine kinase (CK) was elevated in all exercising groups. Patients with hepatitis were the only group in which a correlation was found between aminotransferases and GGT.
CONCLUSION: Prior reports of anabolic steroid-induced hepatotoxicity based on elevated aminotransferase levels may have been overstated, because no exercising subjects, including steroid users, demonstrated hepatic dysfunction based on GGT levels. Such reports may have misled the medical community to emphasize steroid-induced hepatotoxicity when interpreting elevated aminotransferase levels and disregard muscle damage. For these reasons, when evaluating hepatic function in cases of anabolic steroid therapy or abuse, CK and GGT levels should be considered in addition to ALT and AST levels as essential elements of the assessment.Last edited by Maximus G; 09-21-2005 at 03:43 PM.
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09-21-2005, 03:42 PM #4
I've done dbol at 30mg/day for 5 weeks w/ no problems. Take milkthistle and drink plenty of water. You deff. need to add in some test for this cycle, otherwise your penis will fall off. sorry.
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09-21-2005, 03:42 PM #5Originally Posted by Maximus G
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09-21-2005, 03:45 PM #6
Yes i check them often
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09-21-2005, 03:49 PM #7Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
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09-21-2005, 03:52 PM #8
30 mg of Dbol over six weeks is not going to cause any problems. It's a low dose over a short period of time. Just take your vitamins, Liv 52, Milk Thistle and drink plenty of fresh water.
No disrespect to the guy mentioning that you'll need a liver transplant after four weeks, but that really did make me laugh. You need to do a bit more research on 17aa's and the Liver.
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09-21-2005, 03:56 PM #9Originally Posted by Maximus G
Last edited by thejuiceisloose; 09-21-2005 at 03:58 PM.
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09-21-2005, 03:58 PM #10Originally Posted by Sherlock Holmes
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09-21-2005, 04:00 PM #11
How do you take milk thristle, is it every day while doing an oral or what?
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09-21-2005, 04:01 PM #12Originally Posted by Hellmask
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09-21-2005, 04:04 PM #13Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
Sense sarcasm? No. You need to be more specific.
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09-21-2005, 04:04 PM #14
Lmao
Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
Well you gon' get blown, but i got a friend whose been being on Dbol for 2 years now nonstop!! No kidding, that's true and -maybe his liver is already dead - but he has not visual downsides, perfect skin, no bloating, and is 195Lbs shredded. That's amazing!
But again, i wouldn't like to see his liver, dude!!
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09-21-2005, 04:06 PM #15Originally Posted by INSANEMAN675
this will work, but you may run into lethargy, loss of sex drive, and this is no good for growth. You may want to add 300mg of test to that every week, and i think you will be happy.
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09-21-2005, 04:06 PM #16Originally Posted by Sherlock Holmes
Yes, Milk Thistle is taken ED, starting before cycle and ending after cycle, to be on the safe side. Bloodwork is a must.
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09-21-2005, 04:06 PM #17Originally Posted by Hellmask
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09-21-2005, 04:06 PM #18
and i forgot to say, he's taking 30mg ED..........till his liver explode
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09-21-2005, 04:07 PM #19Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
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09-21-2005, 04:08 PM #20
run some TEST ... definitely
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09-21-2005, 04:09 PM #21
Lmfao
Originally Posted by Drummerboy
Dude, funny the way to talk about that, but hey, you should really feel concerned about it. You're not gonna buy a new one every X-Mas!!!
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09-21-2005, 04:09 PM #22
PS the 17a theory that says they are so liver toxic is largely exaggerated in most cases. the only way to tell for YOU is to get your values checked while on cycle.
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09-21-2005, 04:10 PM #23Originally Posted by Testostack
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09-21-2005, 04:10 PM #24
yea what is milk thistle i keep hearing about it but i do not know what it is.
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09-21-2005, 04:11 PM #25Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
One day, you're gonna be squatting, and when you finish off the squat, you'll find some liver just under your shorts
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09-21-2005, 04:12 PM #26
[QUOTE=IBdmfkr]Holmes, take your pipe out of your ass. It was obvious sarcasism. [QUOTE]
My pipe, I'll stick it where I want.
The statement was exaggerated to purposely scare the original poster. This was, in my opinion, not a good explaination at all.
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09-21-2005, 04:13 PM #27
BTW, its my 100th post, just wanted to say, for nuttin'.........
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09-21-2005, 04:13 PM #28
I agree his statement was incorrect, but stick around for more than a week before you run your mouth.
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09-21-2005, 04:14 PM #29Originally Posted by Testostack
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09-21-2005, 04:15 PM #30Originally Posted by Testostack
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09-21-2005, 04:15 PM #31Originally Posted by INSANEMAN675
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09-21-2005, 04:16 PM #32Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
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09-21-2005, 04:16 PM #33Originally Posted by INSANEMAN675
Go to a supplement store and purchase it. It is a supplement, around 10$. Worth every penny.
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09-21-2005, 04:16 PM #34Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
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09-21-2005, 04:19 PM #35
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09-21-2005, 04:19 PM #36Originally Posted by Sherlock Holmes
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09-21-2005, 04:19 PM #37Originally Posted by Sherlock Holmes
THe thistle will clean everything out.
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09-21-2005, 04:20 PM #38
Anyway, don't mean to hijack, but most IMPORTANT thing is def. not ther dose, but the damn ****ing FOOD you'll put in you stomach, cuz we all know (i hope so) that Dbol helps synthesis of protein, so get some dam chicken breast and eat like a horse!!
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09-21-2005, 04:20 PM #39Originally Posted by falker
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09-21-2005, 04:21 PM #40Originally Posted by Testostack
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