Clomid=no more gyno

**redman9** · 08-10-2005, 10:42 AM

What up homies,I have been researching tons,I can't seem to find anthing that says that Clomid is good for stopping gyno? And if I take Clomid then I have to still take nolva, right?
My biggest fear of sides is gyno, so I'd really like to get an answer on this one..

**Swifto** · 08-10-2005, 10:44 AM

The simple answer is: Clomid wont stop gyno. Nolva at 20mg/ED will.

**Swifto** · 08-10-2005, 10:45 AM

For a more effective way of stopping gyno, if its really much of an issue for you, try some Letro.

**eGGz** · 08-10-2005, 10:47 AM

Nolva is your best defence against gyno. With dbol I get gyno symptoms big time. First my nips start itching for a day or two, then they start getting sore. buy this time I'm hitting the nolva @ 60mg ED.

Now I just run nolvadex @ 10mg ED & anastrozole @ .25mg Ed throughout my cycle. No problems so far.

**ODC0717** · 08-10-2005, 10:50 AM

clomid is used during PCT to restart your natural test production. nolva is more effective and combined with ldex, or letro, gyno shouldn't be an issue.

**redman9** · 08-15-2005, 10:55 AM

thanks for the ifo homies..

**taylor26** · 08-15-2005, 11:12 AM

go with the letro man good move to make. And if you're thinking about purchasing the sponsorer, ar-r , sells it.

***JohnnyB*** · 08-15-2005, 12:39 PM

Clomid is the worst, why do you think some guys act like a 13 year old girl on her period, because clomid doesn't block estrogen

JohnnyB

**Swifto** · 08-15-2005, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Clomid is the worst, why do you think some guys act like a 13 year old girl on her period, because clomid doesn't block estrogen

JohnnyB

Doesnt Clomid act as a very mild Anti-E?

**redman9** · 09-16-2005, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Doesnt Clomid act as a very mild Anti-E?

I think that I have heard that before too, but I am not sure. I guess they are all good pct's to use. Anyone have advice which one they perfer nolva, clomid, or letro??

**vein-x** · 09-17-2005, 12:30 AM

it is an anti-estrogen. however, it has some serious effects that you will feel like acting like a little girl, and some that are common, like blurred vision and bad headaches. i dont see why people use clomid over nolva, never understood it, really...

**Bruticus** · 09-17-2005, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by vein-x

it is an anti-estrogen. however, it has some serious effects that you will feel like acting like a little girl, and some that are common, like blurred vision and bad headaches. i dont see why people use clomid over nolva, never understood it, really...

climid doesnt do blurred vision
give us some researches that prove this
but headaches it can give because of hormones changes in the body

**eGGz** · 09-17-2005, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by vein-x

it is an anti-estrogen. however, it has some serious effects that you will feel like acting like a little girl, and some that are common, like blurred vision and bad headaches. i dont see why people use clomid over nolva, never understood it, really...

I don't get headaches, blurred vision or overly emotional from clomid.

**Swifto** · 09-17-2005, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Bruticus

climid doesnt do blurred vision
give us some researches that prove this
but headaches it can give because of hormones changes in the body

I cannot find a particular study on vision issues when using Clomiphene Citrate. However, side effects including blurred vision are well documented. Read the profile on Clomiphene at the MedLinePlus website. A service of the US National Library of Medicine and the National Institutes of Health.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...r/a682704.html

**Jsik98** · 09-17-2005, 01:04 PM

As far as I know, clomid is a form of estrogen which happens to have a powerful exititory effect on FSH and LH which are two hormones responsible for signalling the testes to produce more testosterone . So, it is apparent that clomid would actually contribute to gyno if it isn't used with a SERM or anti-estrogen b/c increased test levels means increased estrogen levels.

**vein-x** · 09-17-2005, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I cannot find a particular study on vision issues when using Clomiphene Citrate. However, side effects including blurred vision are well documented. Read the profile on Clomiphene at the MedLinePlus website. A service of the US National Library of Medicine and the National Institutes of Health.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...r/a682704.html

What Swift said, and either way... why take something that has possible side effects, when you can take something similar w/o all the sides?

**big'r** · 09-17-2005, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Doesnt Clomid act as a very mild Anti-E?

Originally Posted by redman9

I think that I have heard that before too, but I am not sure. I guess they are all good pct's to use. Anyone have advice which one they perfer nolva, clomid, or letro??

A very mild anti-e indeed.
It's antiestrogen effects are achieved primarily at the level of breast tissue.
But not comparable to the effects of nolvadex at all.

I'd definitely do nolvadex PCT:
It stimulates the axis as well as clomid does, but has a few possible advantages. It will improve cholesterol (which allways gets f**ked up on an AAS cycle) and prevent you from gyno.
Letrozole will stimulate the axis as well as the SERMS, but is thought to create an increase in the aromatase enzym. This will give you more estrogen after discontinued use. This should lead to a decrease in LH/FSH values.

**mranak** · 09-17-2005, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by big'r

A very mild anti-e indeed.
It's antiestrogen effects are achieved primarily at the level of breast tissue.
But not comparable to the effects of nolvadex at all.

Clomid doesn't do much of anything at the mammary glands. That's what it doesn't help much with gyno.

Originally Posted by big'r

I'd definitely do nolvadex PCT:
It stimulates the axis as well as clomid does, but has a few possible advantages.

None of these things directly stimulate the HPTA. They only work to block negative feedback from the estrogen.

Originally Posted by big'r

Letrozole will stimulate the axis as well as the SERMS, but is thought to create an increase in the aromatase enzym. This will give you more estrogen after discontinued use. This should lead to a decrease in LH/FSH values.

Letro will increase the aromatase enzyme? What evidence do you have of that. I have never seen any information to suggest this.

**magic32** · 09-17-2005, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by redman9

What up homies,I have been researching tons,I can't seem to find anthing that says that Clomid is good for stopping gyno? And if I take Clomid then I have to still take nolva, right?
My biggest fear of sides is gyno, so I'd really like to get an answer on this one..

How is guys can come in here talking about how much research they've done, "tons", yet they can't answer one of the simplest questions imaginable?

M.

**mranak** · 09-17-2005, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by magic32

How is guys can come in here talking about how much research they've done, "tons", yet they can't answer one of the simplest questions imaginable?

M.

Maybe because he was trying to find information about something that wasn't true (clomid being good at helping gyno). But good point.

**big'r** · 09-17-2005, 11:04 PM