You Can't Get GYNO From PRIMO, Can You?!

**sleazyrider** · 05-04-2002, 02:06 PM

you can't get GYNO from primo, can you?!

Thanks, sleazy

***Cycleon*** · 05-04-2002, 02:18 PM

no

**sleazyrider** · 05-04-2002, 02:22 PM

even at high dose (400 - 500mg) a week?

thanks

**tbulldog** · 05-04-2002, 02:25 PM

it doesnt aromatize

**broncojosh** · 05-04-2002, 02:26 PM

no means no. no gyno from primo. enjoy

**sleazyrider** · 05-04-2002, 05:29 PM

....so you're saying there's a chance then!?

Joking! Thanks, and I get it and appreciate it!

Sleazy

**GoTGunS?** · 05-04-2002, 07:18 PM

Wait a second, I thought ALL test aromatizes. So your saying I can do all the primo I want and never get gyno? Ive been known to be sensitive to estrogen, and have had to take nolva on a a few occasions. So if I were to do a cycle of prop, EQ and winny, Id basicaly have an almost 0 percent chance of gyno?

**tbulldog** · 05-04-2002, 07:30 PM

eq can aromatize but in very rare cases

**mishon1** · 05-04-2002, 07:42 PM

gotguns nice avatar

**ripped_82** · 05-04-2002, 07:44 PM

Primo=DHT, means no Gyno at any dose

**Dr.Evil** · 05-04-2002, 07:46 PM

wait a second guys...

primo does not aromatize, but at high amounts in susceptible people it can cause gyno indirectly.

when hormone levels drop suddenly post cycle, the body will try to compensate by producing large amounts of its own hormone and most of that will be in the form of estrogen. this post cycle estrogen production can easily cause gyno symptoms on people who are susceptible.

primo won't do it directly, but it's just the sudden withdraw of hormones that will do it to you.

a very similar case is when men get castrated for one reason or another. in some men who are gyno sensitive the increased estrogen produced to compensate for the lack of testosterone will also cause gyno. this has nothing to do with steroids , but just natural human physiology to try to maintain homeostasis.

**ripped_82** · 05-04-2002, 07:48 PM

Your correct Dr.Evil, but you would have to take lots of Primo for that to happen in most casses, personaly i have never heard of ot happening

**Dr.Evil** · 05-04-2002, 07:52 PM

yes, it's rare, but it can happen. the person just has to have a lot of estrogen receptors, especially in the breast tissues. the dose doesn't have to be that high. 500mg/wk for 8 wks should trigger a compensatory response by the hypothalamus to produce extra hormones post cycle. most people don't have such high concentrations of ER and won't be susceptible to this.

**Dr.Evil** · 05-04-2002, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Tennis_God

OUCH...thats a bad though....

lol. usually for testicular cancer... either die w/ cancer or live with your cancerous balls... ouch it is

**tbulldog** · 05-04-2002, 08:16 PM

so with high doses of primo, clomid will do the trick

**tbulldog** · 05-04-2002, 08:17 PM

oops! and nolva for precautionary measures.....

**Dr.Evil** · 05-04-2002, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by tbulldog
oops! and nolva for precautionary measures.....

only for post cycle. if no aromatizing or progestenic AS are used during a cycle then you would only need nolva (not arimidex cuz nothing is aromatizing) post cycle. clomid may not be a strong enough estrogen blocker on the ER of the breast tissues.

**GoTGunS?** · 05-05-2002, 12:43 AM

DR. Evil, If there was such a thing as an Anabolic Doctor, Id be ur first patient. Your knowledge of absolutely everything amazes me. This point on prop makes me really consider my next cycle though. My last 2 were test eth, and my next I was gonna go Cyp, EQ and winny, but maybe I'll try prop, EQ and winny, hmmmmmmmmmm, whats ur thoughts?

**Dr.Evil** · 05-05-2002, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by GoTGunS?
My last 2 were test eth, and my next I was gonna go Cyp, EQ and winny, but maybe I'll try prop, EQ and winny, hmmmmmmmmmm, whats ur thoughts?

for convenience i would go w/ the cyp and mix it in the same shot as the EQ. i see no reason to do daily shots w/ the prop if you don't have anything else in your cycle that requires daily shots.

another thought would be to replace the eq w/ tren and use prop/tren/winny.