Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
Do what you want, I really don't want to get into a pissing match with ODC. I am just going off of my own cycle exp. and saying what I'd run for a bulk. We all have our own experiences, so you will get mixed opinions. I have done winny and not done it. For the money It is not worth it to me for such shortterm strength gains that winny provides. I do not agree with winny solidifying gains(or whatever this means). A proper diet, training and adequate rest works just fine for maintaining and keeping gains. This is Only your third cycle, seems like you are trying to overdue it. Goodluck to you, if you want advice, PM me.