Hows this cycle look?

[Xtralarg]

Constructive critisism wanted please:
IM 28 6ft3 240lbs,quite low bf,training 8 yrs,tried many cycles not gone over 750mg main test before.Thanks for your replies guys!!

wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
wk 1-4 prop 100mg ed
wk 1-12 test e 1g pw
wk 1-10 eq 750mg pw
wk 9-14 masteron 50mg ed
wk 10-14 prop 100mg ed
hgh 4-6iu ed 5on 2off
12.5-25mcg t3 ed
nolva 20mg+ed
Proper PCT

Should i add tren antwhere in the cycle?

[Booz]

looks good to me xt,but i personally dont see the need for the dbol and prop to start off,i would add tren e to run with the test the 1st 12 weeks.

[Xtralarg]

looks good to me xt,but i personally dont see the need for the dbol and prop to start off,i would add tren e to run with the test the 1st 12 weeks.

just thought id front load with the prop and dbol,so youd run test e and tren together through to wk 12,no dbol at all?

[IBdmfkr]

Constructive critisism wanted please:
IM 28 6ft3 240lbs,quite low bf,training 8 yrs,tried many cycles not gone over 750mg main test before.Thanks for your replies guys!!

wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
wk 1-4 prop 100mg ed
wk 1-12 test e 1g pw
wk 1-10 eq 750mg pw
wk 9-14 masteron 50mg ed
wk 10-14 prop 100mg ed
hgh 4-6iu ed 5on 2off
12.5-25mcg t3 ed
nolva 20mg+ed
Proper PCT

Should i add tren antwhere in the cycle?

I'd use either/or. Dbol or prop, not both. Start the Hgh before the cycle too. I'd also run Tren A 50-100mg/day. I chose TrenA rather than E because it is easier to control sides and play with daily dosages. Other than that, looks good.

[Booz]

I'd use either/or. Dbol or prop, not both. Start the Hgh before the cycle too. I'd also run Tren A 50-100mg/day. I chose TrenA rather than E because it is easier to control sides and play with daily dosages. Other than that, looks good.

yes mate there is that aspect to it,i just prefer the longer actin ester coz of the ease of less shots,not that im bothered about ed done it before and will do it again!

[Booz]

i personally would leave out the dbol coz your gonna get the jump from the prop mate,but thats just me,should not see any probs runnin the dbol with it,i just think it somethin thats not needed.yes i would extend the test to 13 and run tren for 12,rearrange the end to suit,the test n tren combo will go nicely with the gh so i have read.nice!!
when i finally start mine i will be runnin test tren eq and var at variouse points throughout!cant wait.

[Xtralarg]

Im not startin till new year i dont think,if i can last that long!! Thanks for the input guys.

[Tedbear981]

How soon do you think he(or anyone) should start the HGH before the cycle, 1 month??

[Xtralarg]

How soon do you think he(or anyone) should start the HGH before the cycle, 1 month??

I already started it,back in feb,should of added that i suppose.If i hadnt id start now!!

[Booz]

2-3 months mate,thats when your liver starts producin insulin at the higher levels so thats when it should really start to happen!

[IBdmfkr]

Rodge stated the other day on a thread, insulin must be taken with GH to produce IGF. I am looking into this, if this is true I have just wasted 5months of HGH. Yes a couple months would be a good timeframe to start GH prior.

i'm the first one to admit that you should stick to pwo only with slin but this time i'm not trying to stave off catabolisme in the AM or shutle nutrients but to get the most out of the hgh.as you know both has to be present in the liver to create igf-1.

-rodge

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=193435

[Xtralarg]

Rodge stated the other day on a thread, insulin must be taken with GH to produce IGF. I am looking into this, if this is true I have just wasted 5months of HGH. Yes a couple months would be a good timeframe to start GH prior.



http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=193435

Yea,ive read that too,insulin scares me a little though!

[IBdmfkr]

Yea,ive read that too,insulin scares me a little though!

If taken seriously and diet is in check, there should be no reason to fear it. But many are in the same boat as you. Start off with a small dose like 5iuPWO and work your way up to 10-12 max.

[Xtralarg]

If taken seriously and diet is in check, there should be no reason to fear it. But many are in the same boat as you. Start off with a small dose like 5iuPWO and work your way up to 10-12 max.

I have considered it,as i have with igf-1 as well,more research by me is required i think!

[Tedbear981]

you notice anything from hgh since feb??

[Xtralarg]

you notice anything from hgh since feb??

Yes,brilliant results,bf dropped considerably and quality muscle gained,its a slow process though

[Xtralarg]

bump

[Pinkvelvet]

Don't know much...but, dude...thats a lot of shit....

[IBdmfkr]

That depends on who you ask.

Good cycle just needs fine tuning.

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

Don't know much...but, dude...thats a lot of shit....

He may have a few things in there but that ain't shit really... apparently you never saw BDTR's cycles... now that is a lot of shit... hahaha..

[programmer]

hey XTRALARG
how long have you been training?
just curious... thx

[Xtralarg]

hey XTRALARG
how long have you been training?
just curious... thx

About 8 years

[catlovesfood]

I love this cycle, I might do it myself!

[bignatt]

i agree with everybody else either dbol or the prop

[Xtralarg]

Would anoyone add tren and if so when and how much???? Thanks

[Booz]

Would anoyone add tren and if so when and how much???? Thanks

told you wat id do mate!

[marcus300]

looks good XL, throw in the tren aswell,,,,,xx

[IBdmfkr]

75-100mg/day if you can stand sides, if not bump it down a bit to 50mg. That's with TrenA ofcourse.

[big_C]

yep..pick one...d-bol or prop...IMO prop, but you choose. Other than that...looks good bro, adding that Mast is nice, i did that a few times...your gonna get hard as hell!!