Ok I think every one on this board with over 2 hundred-post thinks a cycle with out test is like the black pelage. I see people all the time showing there cycles and if it does not have test they immediately get ripped apart. Saying you need to do more research you will destroy you liver that’s the worst cycle I have ever seen. Now this all my very well be true but a lot of the cycles I see posted are right out of the anabolics 2002 2005 so my question is does William liewellyn not know any thing about cycles is his info out dated. I under stand that there are going to guys outhere that post some stupidly huge cycle don’t event know what pct is by all means rip them apart. Those are the people that give users a bad name. But if is using whatever research he has available and base his cycles on that give him a break and if these books are total bullst%t than why do they let them advertise on this site. I understand I importance of test so please don’t preach to the choir I would still never bash someone who did there own research and it was not the same as mine