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    Lightbulb *ULTIMATE NON-Testosterone CYCLES!*

    1.) EQ/Primo/Winny

    2.) EQ/Primo/TBOL

    3.) TBOL/Primo/Winny

    4.) TBOL/Primo/Var

    5.) EQ/Primo/Var

    6.) EQ/DBOL /Winny

    7.) EQ/DBOL/Primo

    8.) EQ/DBOL/Var

    9.) Primo/DBOL/TBOL

    10.) Primo/Var/Winny


    Just a few. Glad to see that the board is becoming more open-minded.

    *ALSO--If the decreased testosterone production causes a decrease in your libido(Most of the above cycles NEVER adversely affected my sex drive), you may add PROVIRON rather than adding TEST and sabotaging your gains. These cycles DO NOT NEED TEST to be effective. They are FAR more effective WITHOUT test, as they have MUCH less of an impact on the pituitary AND the testes, which is why you will keep ALL of your gains.

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    Last edited by Steroid Savior; 10-23-2005 at 06:46 PM.

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    Why hello Ross ROFL "You can run but you can't hide"



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    why not use test? i just don't understand that... its not alot of money i get best results from it and i see hardly any sides

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    HI Ross...things quiet on BB4L?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    HI Ross...things quiet on BB4L?

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    BB4L has been having some confrontations lately..LOL..check it out..

    Good to see you though brother! Just stopping by to share some ideas. I'll be gone shortly.

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    Where you going homeboy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroid Savior
    BB4L has been having some confrontations lately..LOL..check it out..

    Good to see you though brother! Just stopping by to share some ideas. I'll be gone shortly.

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    I'll go over it see what's happening.Any threads to look for?

    Be good!

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    non-test favorite; tren only hands down follwed by eq only.

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    lol i knew by the thread title that it was u ROSS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    HI Ross...things quiet on BB4L?

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    Haha. Nice claims Ross, too bad they are false.

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    Which claims buddy?

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    ross how many times have u been banned??? u have to own the record...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by topvega
    ross how many times have u been banned??? u have to own the record...lol
    nah, i'd be willing to bet hoss is still the king of bannings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topvega
    ross how many times have u been banned??? u have to own the record...lol
    They should simply STOP BANNING ME--LOL!

    I should have never been banned in the 1st place. I am not banned on any other boards.

    We should all have the right to freely express our opinions. I have not been allowed to do so, and one must begin to question why that is....

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    ross, how do you figure test ruins gains....

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    ross, how do you figure test ruins gains....
    In SOME cycles TEST destroys gains as it is is FAR too harsh on the Pituitary and the Testicles for superior retention of mass and strength gains POST cycle. Using mild anabolics like Primo and Equipose will only SUPRESS your natural testosterone production, and not to any great degree. (If you DO experience a decreased Libido, simply add Proviron , which will also increase the effectiveness of your steroids by binding to SHBG.) SHUTDOWN is defined as a COMPLETE cessation of endogenous androgen production, as is the case when using testosterone, trenbolone , and nandrolone .

    It is FAR easier to maintain gains with mild(non-estrogenic/progestenic/androgenic ) compounds.
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    Am I correct in saying you dont use any type of test?

    goose4....

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    Am I correct in saying you dont use any type of test?

    goose4....
    Your are CORRECT.

    MASSIVE permanent lean gains without it.

    New pictures SOON! Photoshoot next week. Currently 5''10, 215lbs, 7%BF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroid Savior
    In SOME cycles TEST destroys gains as it is is FAR too harsh on the Pituitary and the Testicles for superior retention of mass and strength gains POST cycle. Using mild anabolics like Primo and Equipose will only SUPRESS your natural testosterone production, and not to any great degree. (If you DO experience a decreased Libido, simply add Proviron , which will also increase the effectiveness of your steroids by binding to SHBG.) SHUTDOWN is defined as a COMPLETE cessation of endogenous androgen production, as is the case when using testosterone, trenbolone , and nandrolone .

    It is FAR easier to maintain gains with mild(non-estrogenic/progestenic/androgenic) compounds.
    uh ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroid Savior
    Your are CORRECT.

    MASSIVE permanent lean gains without it.

    New pictures SOON! Photoshoot next week. Currently 5''10, 215lbs, 7%BF.

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    LOL photoshoot. Ross post some pics on this thread of your progress.

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    OH yea, and NO SIDE effects. No damaged ENDOCRINE system either.

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    Yo testosterona Ross is a Steroid scientist. He uses University of Florida dumb "Frat Boys" as his "ALL ORAL ONLY CYCLE" tests.

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    here we go again ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroid Savior
    Your are CORRECT.

    MASSIVE permanent lean gains without it.

    New pictures SOON! Photoshoot next week. Currently 5''10, 215lbs, 7%BF.

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    When you come back on Ross to post your pics..use a name that isn't so obvious.When I saw your first post I knew right away...LOL...great avatar tho..and name..lol...

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    Can never just have a discussion.......

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    I guess your a fan of the Exotics?

    goose4......

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    ross... just a thought... after u get banned yet again, can u make your next name the steroid messiah???

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    or "Steroid Stud"

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    Quote Originally Posted by topvega
    ross... just a thought... after u get banned yet again, can u make your next name the steroid messiah???
    come on...don't shit on his thread...OttowaDoughboys thread is worthy of that!!

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    i like when ross shows up and stirs the pot up a bit...

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    I don't mind Ross. He's good entertainment and he brings something new to the table, but he's very very very obsessed with himself. Kind of needs a wake up call!

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    I've done cycles with out test before. They wern't necesarily bad, but Test is what I base all my future cycles on, and I do this from experience...
    I LOVE TEST SO MUCH!!!

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    LOL damn that was the fastest i've seen ROSS go.

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    I can tell by the amount of contraversy, and by the amount of members viewing this thread, that it will eventually be closed...

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    Any comments about non test cycles?

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    He will be back!

    goose4....

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicy_brucy
    Any comments about non test cycles?
    Never done one, but I don't disaprove of them.

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    Well actually I bridged with some dbol , but that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicy_brucy
    I can tell by the amount of contraversy, and by the amount of members viewing this thread, that it will eventually be closed...
    i don't think the thread will be closed... but ross is banned again...

    i like using test as a base in my cycles and will continue to do so in the future..

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    No, ross will come back, say something crazy, get banned and eventually this thread may get closed. I've seen it a lot. But people aren't bashing ross as much as they used to...

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