My first cycle ?

**THINKBIG** · 10-26-2005, 06:42 PM

I have 30ml of super test 250 and 30ml of qv 300 deca . let me know what I should do and what else I need. I'm 6'1" 205 345 max bench I have been trainning for 2 years. bf is around 11% last I checked. Thanks for any help this place seems like a great bunch of guys........................

**longhorn814** · 10-26-2005, 07:46 PM

1-12 500mg/wk of test
14-17 PCT clomid/nolva

Make sure u have anti e on hand during cycle. If u want u can run 10mg nolva ed during cycle too. Save deca for next cycle

**eGGz** · 10-26-2005, 07:48 PM

I like to recommend test only for a first cycle.

Test only cycle/first cycle:
1-12 Test E or C @ 500mg EW (inject twice weekly)
1-14 Nolva @ 10mg ED
1-18 A-dex @ .25mg ED
15-18 Clomid @ 100mg ED
15-18 Nolva @ 20mg ED

Test/Deca cycle/second cycle:
1-14 Test E or C @ 500mg EW (inject twice weekly)
1-12 Deca @ 400mg EW
1-16 Vit B-6 @ 200mg ED
1-16 Nolva @ 10mg ED
1-20 A-dex @ .25mg ED
17-20 Clomid @ 100mg ED
17-20 Nolva @ 20mg ED

**THINKBIG** · 10-27-2005, 12:03 AM

Do I need to start with a smaller dose and stop with one, or do I just start out at 500mg a week. My buddy says I should start at 250mg work up to 500mg and then come back down to 250mg.

**24labor** · 10-27-2005, 12:06 AM

split the dosage up into 2 250mg shots a week. One on mon and one on thur

**THINKBIG** · 10-27-2005, 12:42 AM

ok so I don't need to start out any lower, like less then a cc for the first ones

**edmen2** · 10-27-2005, 12:44 AM

u dont want to pyramid ur doses. it causes unstable blood levels which in turn causes more sides.

**THINKBIG** · 10-27-2005, 12:48 AM

thanks for the info guys really a help for this first timer..............

**eGGz** · 10-27-2005, 12:50 AM

The longer esters have a built in taper up and taper down. It takes several weeks to build up in your system and when you quit it takes several weeks to dissipate.