Proviron/nolva question

[ZIA1]

Does proviron and/or nolva need to be taken during a stack that looks like this:

EQ: Week 1-12 400mg/wk
Winny: Week 10-15 400mg/wk

I will be adding nolva and clomid during my pct, which I'll start one day after my last winny inject. I'm just curious to know if Eq and Winny, at those doses, really call for using proviron and/or nolva throughout the cycle. Thanks

[eGGz]

I think Testosterone needs to be added to that stack.

[ZIA1]

Say its without test, would you run nolva or proviron throughout (excluding pct)?

[eGGz]

Proviron increases "free testosterone " but since you won't have testosterone any it probably won't matter.

In that cycle I'd suggest running cialis.

[chest6]

quit being stubborn and add test..why would you not want to have test in there?

[ZIA1]

I actually have test prop on hand. If I do it, I only want to take 400mg/wk for 10 weeks along with Eq@300/wk for 10 weeks and finish up with 5 weeks of winny. I don't know, first cycle in 7 years. My first was sus 250 and I was young, stupid, and didn't do it right. Now, I'm much more informed but I was thinking of starting slowly. I'm more afraid of water retention and bitch tits but I guess 400wk of prop plus 20mg of nolva ED won't cause that, right?

[chest6]

well..if u want to do it right..actually do it right add test. You need more gear, too. If you want to use the EQ I suggest getting a longer acting testosterone like an enanthate or cypionate . You can use prop with eq..but eq should be ran for a minimum of 12 weeks..which means you would have to run the prop for 15 weeks...which would be a huge pain in the ass..literally.

[ZIA1]

Isn't there a greater chance of water retention and gyno with test E? I want to stay lean...not bloat. I guess I could use 400 E and 300 Eq for 12 weeks...with the last 5 weeks using winny. Would nolva at 20mg ED be sufficient?

[transform]

Isn't there a greater chance of water retention and gyno with test E? I want to stay lean...not bloat. I guess I could use 400 E and 300 Eq for 12 weeks...with the last 5 weeks using winny. Would nolva at 20mg ED be sufficient?

take 20mg of nolva a day and get arimidex too. these 2 combined would make the chances of getting gyno from test negligable and you shouldnt get too much water retention either. but 20mg of nolva would probably do by itself

i wouldnt worry about gyno from eq and winstrol .