Dose question

[ZIA1]

Is 500mg/wk of EQ too much for a 1st timer?

[wolfyEVH]

honestly bro...we need more info about you....age, height, weight, years training, is your diet good, goals, etc.

as for a first timer, stick w/ testosterone only.

[ZIA1]

I'm 30, 5'10, 195lbs, diet is good, goal is to gain a bit of extra muscle...not bulk up at all...stay lean and hard. I've been training on and off for 5 years. I hear you on the test thing. For argument's sake, is 500mg/wk of Eq and 50mg ED of Proviron for a total of 12 weeks too much. Is bloating an issue with Eq at 500?

[wolfyEVH]

I'm 30, 5'10, 195lbs, diet is good, goal is to gain a bit of extra muscle...not bulk up at all...stay lean and hard. I've been training on and off for 5 years. I hear you on the test thing. For argument's sake, is 500mg/wk of Eq and 50mg ED of Proviron for a total of 12 weeks too much. Is bloating an issue with Eq at 500?

at your age, i would definitely take testosterone only. you already have declining test levels at your age, and taking steroids w/o the test base will give you even lower test levels which can cause for some big problems (lack of sex drive, lethargy, mood swings, you name it). for your goals, a low dose of test would be good. (around 250-500mg/week). if bloating even becomes an issue (which i doubt it would), like i said in my previous post, there are things you can take like arimidex .

for the goals you want, i would normally say for you to stay natural.....however at your age, it would be very difficult to add just a few pounds naturally over time with your declining test levels.

[ZIA1]

so sus 250 a week would be fine, right? I could take that with Eq, yes?

[ZIA1]

Proviron wouldn't do much with the eq only cycle...meaning help with sex issues, etc

[wolfyEVH]

so sus 250 a week would be fine, right? I could take that with Eq, yes?

why not just sust only?? are you this dead set on taking EQ?? you'll save yourself lots of cash by running testosterone only and i know you'll like the results and the way you feel. sust at 500mg/week (shot twice a week) will be good. run that for about 10 weeks.

[ZIA1]

I already have EQ and winny on hand. I can hold off for another time. I would like to try Eq though. I've heard great things. For my concerns about bloating I hear that test prop is great...what do you think? Like I said, I'm not looking to bulk up so I'd keep the dosage of prop around 350/wk along with proviron at 50mg/ED...that's good for my age and goals, right?

[ZIA1]

Using 500mg/wk EQ....does it need to be tapered or no?

[transform]

400-600mg of eq a week is ok imo. and dont taper it on or off. you should use test too. bloating shouldnt be concern with eq. a friend of mine did 400mg eq a day, 50mg winstrol a day and 250mg of testE a week. his labido was down alot, but he wasnt totally shut down. took 20mg of nolva a day throughout and got no bloat either.

[ZIA1]

Strange...I've heard a lot of guys walk around with hard-on just from EQ and proviron ...maybe my drive will fall but with a good pct I should be fine