3rd cycle advice for after xmas please

[dazbo]

Hi

I am currently 5'10", 187lbs approx 12% BF, age 23. My first cycle was a porrly researched sus/deca /dbol (Low doses) and kept none of the gains I made (Poor PCT). Then I did test prop/var, made some good gains, had injury, 3 months off completely and lost them all!

Heres my next proposed cycle -

wk 1-12 = Deca @ 400/500mg EW (Depends whether I get 200mg amps or 250mg)
wk 1-4 = Test Prop @ 100mg EOD + Test Enth @ 750mg EW = 1100mg Test
wk 1-14 = Test Enth @ 750mg EW
1-16 Vit B-6 @ 200mg ED
1-16 Nolva @ 10mg ED

PCT:
15-16 HCG @ 2000iu 2xwk/500iu EOD - (I will read up a bit more on the dosage of this before deciding what to do - for example, hookers profiles.)
17-19 Clomid @ 300/100/50mg ED
17-19 Nolva @ 20mg ED


What do you think ??

Also, I can now more than likely get hold of some turinabol (OT). I would really like to know how I can add this to the above cycle in place of something like reduce the test a little ? maybe like this -

wk 1-12 = Deca @ 400/500mg EW (Depends whether I get 200mg amps or 250mg)
wk 1-4 = Test Prop @ 100mg EOD + Test Enth @ 500mg EW = 8500mg Test
wk 1-14 = Test Enth @ 500mg EW
wk 11-16 = Oral Turinabol @ 40mg ED
1-16 Vit B-6 @ 200mg ED
1-16 Nolva @ 10mg ED

PCT:
15-16 HCG @ 2000iu 2xwk/500iu EOD - (I will read up a bit more on the dosage of this before deciding what to do - for example, hookers profiles.)
17-19 Clomid @ 300/100/50mg ED
17-19 Nolva @ 20mg ED

Do you think this would be a good cycle to get some great muscle gains and harden them up a little by the end ?

Thanks to everyone

darren

[dazbo]

Here is the original post that I put up regarding this cycle if you're interested in more info about the cycle, reasons and my past cycles/goals/stats etc

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...12#post2188912

[Gra]

I think the first one looks good but i would run the test e @ 500mg a week. Run The deca a little lower than your test. Test 500mg/deca 400mg. Test 750mg/deca 500mg. You prob knew that. 100mg prop EOD+ 500mg test e a week =850mg

[dazbo]

My test is at 750mg per week in the first cycle i stated. Also, deca is lower than that @ either 400/500mg EW.

Thanks so far

[dazbo]

bump

[dazbo]

again not getting any replies....

[dazbo]

PS - ideally, TBol in this cycle would be great as I am dying to try it out

[dazbo]

bump, again

[G-1000]

Bro this is how this cycle should be run. shoot the prop ed not eod.



wk 1-12 = Deca @ 500mg EW
wk 1-4 = Test Prop @ 100mg ED
wk 1-2 = test e 1000mg
wk 2-15 = Test Enth @ 750mg EW split does 2x week
wk 12-17 = Turinabol @ 60mg ED
1-16 Vit B-6 @ 200mg ED
1-17 Nolva @ 10mg ED

PCT:
12-13 and 15-16 HCG @ 2000iu 2x week
17-19 Clomid @ 300/100/50mg ED
17-19 Nolva @ 20mg ED

[SpiderRico]

does he really need to use the test for the first 2 weeks at 1000mg if hes already using the prop to kickstart this cycle i just wondering why he would?

[dazbo]

Thanks gsxxr. Im going to take it just like you say but Im not doing ED prop shots. My last cycle I used prop and used it EOD and had no sides or any probs that way at all. So, not only do I NOT want to do ED shots, I really dont see the point in me doin it like that.

I thought the Tbol dose might have been a little low but just went by hookers profile on that one.

Are you saying my HCG needs to be shot @ 2000ius twice per week ? or split up twice a week ?

Also, is there any chance I can talk to you thru PMs ? Just regarding timings etc please ? Thanks again

Spider - the reason the enth is used along with the prop at the start is to front load the enth. I am using that amount to help get my blood levels of it higher, quicker so that it takes less time to kick in. The prop at the start is used until the Enth actually kicks in.

[G-1000]

prop if you do the eod shoots up the dose to 150mg.

hcg works best for when i do 2 weeks of 2000iu 2x a week. 4000iu week


Pm me any time bro