My friends a dumba$$

**Moosepellet** · 11-01-2005, 09:41 PM

He decided to take an oral only cycle against my wishes, but whatever. Anyway he is about to finish a 6wk drol cycle and needs to know what to do for pct.? I am not familiar with this since I have never taken an oral only cycle and never will? An help on this would be greatly appriciated.

**eGGz** · 11-01-2005, 09:43 PM

Clomid @ 100mg ED
Nolva @ 20mg ED

3-4 weeks should do it.

**longhorn814** · 11-01-2005, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by eGGz

Clomid @ 100mg ED
Nolva @ 20mg ED

3-4 weeks should do it.

thats what i was gonna suggest too

**topvega** · 11-01-2005, 09:45 PM

pct starts 24 hrs after last ingestion...

**eGGz** · 11-01-2005, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by longhorn814

thats what i was gonna suggest too

Cheers ...

**Lavinco** · 11-01-2005, 09:48 PM

yep. what they said.

**Moosepellet** · 11-01-2005, 09:49 PM

Thanks bros, anybody else want to give their inputs on this oral only cycle. Like I said my boy is a complete dumba$$

**cb25** · 11-01-2005, 09:50 PM

PCT is basically the same as for any other cycle IMO. 6 wks of drol and he'll be shut down pretty damn good.

what was stated above is absolutely fine.

**Lavinco** · 11-01-2005, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Moosepellet

Thanks bros, anybody else want to give their inputs on this oral only cycle. Like I said my boy is a complete dumba$$

is he getting gyno or something? what is the immediate concern?

**cb25** · 11-01-2005, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Lavinco

is he getting gyno or something? what is the immediate concern?

immediate concern is that common wisdom (at least amongst us meatheads/juicemonkeys)

is that oral only cycles are no good. the fact that he chose to do that, would qualify him as a dumbass -- or at least ignorant, in my mind.

**longhorn814** · 11-01-2005, 09:54 PM

what kind of gains did he have?

**topvega** · 11-01-2005, 10:00 PM

by the way... i think 6 weeks of a bombs only qualifies him for the Quite a Dumbass label... i hope he was taking some sort of liver protection like milk thistle...
if not he wld have been better off having u just kick him square in his goddamn liver...

**kloter1** · 11-01-2005, 10:35 PM

drol only? ouch his poor liver.

**Moosepellet** · 11-02-2005, 08:11 AM

To answer the question about gains, he is getting better gains than most. Although he is still a dumba$$ and one of my lifting partners, I need to make sure and give him the best available advice from here on out. Thanks to everyone who responded to my thread

**longhorn814** · 11-02-2005, 08:13 AM

you should have him get on this site and do some reading for himself

**tek.** · 11-02-2005, 08:23 AM

he'll lose alot of weight coming off(water), but he should be able to hold the muscle gained. and the ppl going o poor liver, oral sides are badly overrated. I know a local pro down here that runs 150-200mg drol ed alongside 1.5g of test offseason.

**Samson1** · 11-02-2005, 08:41 AM

So let me get this right.........he ignored your advice in the first place and jumps onto an oral only cycle obviously not listening to your advice.........now he needs your help regarding PCT. What were his reasons for oral only cycle? If he didnt listen to you in the first place he obviously 'thinks' he knows what hes doing.

If my training partner did oral only cycle despite telling him not to, if he asked me about PCT id laugh in his face and say 'you dont need my help boy, you seem to know it all yourself'.

Is this a fair comment to make?

**tek.** · 11-02-2005, 08:49 AM

drol only is stupid though, the gains/sides arent worth the shutdown. Add some test and there's a cycle.

**shortie** · 11-02-2005, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by tek.

he'll lose alot of weight coming off(water), but he should be able to hold the muscle gained. and the ppl going o poor liver, oral sides are badly overrated. I know a local pro down here that runs 150-200mg drol ed alongside 1.5g of test offseason.

I know people that jump off buildings for fun-doesn't make it safe or smart!

**Lavinco** · 11-02-2005, 10:49 AM

people. put your money where your mouth is. how many of you say that a dbol only cycle is bad just because you heard it from somewhere and how many of you have actually tried it yourself? well I have tried it, but I kept my doses low. I do agree that test would be better with dbol but you folks seem to think that you can buy test in the produce section or something. where I am from, steroids are almost non-existent so I had to work with what I could get which was dbol only.
Dbol Results

**Smiley619** · 11-02-2005, 11:30 AM

ay, you gotta work with whatever you have sometimes.some will disagree and say NO, wait til you get some test. but hell you cant listen to every1 sometimes, gotta try stuff for yourself.you never know the outcome as we all are different

**shortie** · 11-02-2005, 11:35 AM

Yeah I have done dbol only and have done dbol/deca , prolly done about 4 cycles with no test, and got some gains from them, but nothing compared to what I get off Test based cycles. But as I have said a hundred times if I've said it once-you have to work with what you got. I will, if available to me, never do another cycle w/out test-but if ever in a sit where I just can't find any-I may have to.

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 11-02-2005, 11:46 AM

Hcg .

**Smiley619** · 11-02-2005, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

Hcg.

what do you mean

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 11-02-2005, 10:04 PM

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin , King of all "ball droppers".

**kloter1** · 11-02-2005, 10:11 PM

get him on some milk thistle or liv52 asap

**powerliftmike** · 11-02-2005, 10:20 PM

Man, at first I thought you meant 6 weeks dbol which is bad enough...but 6 weeks of drol? Man, I am glad I don't have his liver. I bet he is going to crash hard too.

**Tren Bull** · 11-02-2005, 11:26 PM

i think ignorant is an understatement if he is coming up on the end of his cycle and he doesn't even have his pct drugs, but all insults aside, he really should run some clen along with the clomid and nolva.

**testosterona** · 11-03-2005, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Lavinco

people. put your money where your mouth is. how many of you say that a dbol only cycle is bad just because you heard it from somewhere and how many of you have actually tried it yourself? well I have tried it, but I kept my doses low. I do agree that test would be better with dbol but you folks seem to think that you can buy test in the produce section or something. where I am from, steroids are almost non-existent so I had to work with what I could get which was dbol only.
Dbol Results

preach it brotha