HCG with nolva and Adex?

**Bossman** · 11-03-2005, 07:02 PM

Im running HCG for 2-weeks before PCT along with Nolva. I've heard that one might experience an estrogen increase with HCG. Will running adex at the same time be beneficial?

**TheMudMan** · 11-03-2005, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by cgb6810

Im running HCG for 2-weeks before PCT along with Nolva. I've heard that one might experience an estrogen increase with HCG. Will running adex at the same time be beneficial?

The nolva and adex will help keep you from having any problems with estrogen related sides

**elcapitan** · 11-03-2005, 07:13 PM

Nolva makes the adex about 30% less effective and your adex dosage should be adjusted up but could be run at the same time, but the nolva by itself keeps me from bloating too bad. Nolva also helps to protect the leiydig cells from damage

**TheMudMan** · 11-03-2005, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by elcapitan

Nolva makes the adex about 30% less effective and your adex dosage should be adjusted up but could be run at the same time, but the nolva by itself keeps me from bloating too bad. Nolva also helps to protect the leiydig cells from damage

There's no way that nolva will keep anyone form bloating. The mechanism in the way nolva works is the reason. Nolva still allows testosterone to aromatize into estrogen. So if there's enough estrogen to cause bloating then it will happen. Nolva is used so that it will bing to the ER and keep estrogen from binding there and causing gyno.

**Bossman** · 11-03-2005, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

The nolva and adex will help keep you from having any problems with estrogen related sides

Yeah MudMan, that's kinda what I was thinking. As long as the Adex wasn't interfering with the HCG it seems like it would make good sense.

Would it work to run the Adex into PCT the first couple of weeks to keep estrogen down? I will be running IGF-1 and nolva into PCT, no clomid.

**TheMudMan** · 11-03-2005, 08:59 PM

Adex will help in restoring HPTA functions by keeping estrogen levels down so run it through the whole PCT process. I have always ran Clomid/nolva/adex so I would like to see how you feel by not using clomid....... the IGF will help you keep a lot of your gains