tren and eq without test. how bad will depression be? i'm sure not as bad as tren and deca mixed. i'm doing without test.
tren-e 2x200mg/ml week
EQ 2x200mg/ml week
8 weeks.
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tren and eq without test. how bad will depression be? i'm sure not as bad as tren and deca mixed. i'm doing without test.
tren-e 2x200mg/ml week
EQ 2x200mg/ml week
8 weeks.
You will be pretty depressed when you try to get a hard on and you can't...........
tren by itslef will shut you DOWN. add eq or deca and your in trouble.run some test, unless you dont care about sex for that 8 weeks that is.
Don't even consider it. Tren will shut you down very hard. You ned prop as your base.
Also....you need to run EQ a minimum of 10wks.
i would'nt run EQ for less the 14 weeks.
and you def need test in that cycle.
-rodge
Test...
****ing test. who needs it!
is EQ as bad as Deca when it comes to depression/anxiety/sex drive etc
bro u should think bout adding prop into that cycle... without ne kind of test in taht cycle... tren will shut u down pretty hard....
use it as a base, stack tren with prop... u should c great lean results...
No flame bro....but then why did you ask for advice??Quote:
Originally Posted by daveywave
because the way i saw it, eq was a good anabolic and didnt make you depressed. but you guys make it sound like i'm gonna go find a bridge and jump. is tren not a good test substitute? why should i stack with test if i'm taking it to remove the test from my cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer
tren is not test. very different. actually the complete oposite when it comes to sides. why no test? what are you trying to avoid?
i've been digging for articles with good referrences around the web as to the use stacking steroids with tren. can someone help me here? i want to see the ideal stack with tren with my own eyes. i was under the assumption that tren is a good test alternative, but from what you guys are saying i'm not so clear anymore. i wanted infrequent injections in this cycle, but with solid, hard gains, no water. thats why i chose the tren-e and eq. i want to maintain my weight but get harder, fuller, and cut bodyfat. prop seems like a logical solution, but ed to eod will become a pain in my ass real fast, and sadly from the last time i messed with prop, my body reacted pretty negatively. reactions that lasted 5+ days, my body doesnt like BA and/or BB. then comes enan/cyp, which maintains water and isnt effective until 2-3 weeks, which is wasted time unless i stick some dbol in (rather not).
how long does the tren-enanthate take to become effective? does it apply to the same rule as test-enan?
well since you guys know all, i'm asking for your help in this situation. i want hard, lean mass building gains, cut some bodyfat maintaining current weight/slight gain, with quick effective start, that lasts about 8-10 weeks, with (i'm leaning towards hopefully now) infrequent injections