Cycle thoughts update & ethical question....

**Canes4Ever** · 05-12-2002, 02:17 AM

Friday I got the hard sell from a clinic in West Palm Beach and was none to happy about that. The guy calls me with a very heavy New York accent and pushy manner that totally turned me off.

He wants me to have his clinic do a complete blood workup, even though I have told him that earlier in the day I had 5 vials of blood taken by my doctor.

Then he proceeds to tell me that I should be on CYP cycle and hGH, even before his seeing or reading any bloodwork for me. How can he do that ?

Well all in all I have talked to Androplex, TNT, Barbells79 and several others from the over 30 board, but wanted to canvass the opinions of the wider population of the board on how you felt about what I experienced with the clinic guy.

Should I overlook his pushy and seemingly uncaring attitude for my health, in order to get easy script CYP and/or hGH to use ? Would you put yourself in the care of someone like this ? Just how far would you bend the rules to get your gear ?

**bex** · 05-12-2002, 02:25 AM

Oh yes canes swallow your pride and take what you can get from him.
When all is said and done you have to get your gear the easiest and cheapest way you can (AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN YOU GET YOUR SCRIPT YOU CAN JUST FORGET ABOUT THE ASS HOLE)

**PaPaPumP** · 05-12-2002, 02:35 AM

How long have you been contemplating cycling?

**The Baron** · 05-12-2002, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by bex
Oh yes canes swallow your pride and take what you can get from him.
When all is said and done you have to get your gear the easiest and cheapest way you can (AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN YOU GET YOUR SCRIPT YOU CAN JUST FORGET ABOUT THE ASS HOLE)

I think he's right, Kev. You are no worse off, from the standpoint of having medical supervision, than if you had got your stuff on the street. Just remember that if you can't trust these guys to be professional, YOU ARE YOUR OWN DOCTOR, for all practical purposes. But I think they want the $ from the additional blood work, right? If it is worth it, in other words, if the total cost of the gear and the script and everything you have to pay for to get it, is not outrageous, go for it. Sounds like just a script mill to me. They probably don't care about your health. Luckily, you do. So just remember who you can count on to have their motives in line with your goals... YOU.

**Ajax** · 05-12-2002, 05:12 AM

My experience is: if the guy is doing a hard sell, then the product is usually way over priced.

If a quality product (or service) is sold at a fair price, it almost sells itself. If they have to hire a guy and pay him a good comission to "push" it, the costs go up, up, up!

Are they asking a reasonble price for their services?

**Canes4Ever** · 05-12-2002, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by Ajax
My experience is: if the guy is doing a hard sell, then the product is usually way over priced.

If a quality product (or service) is sold at a fair price, it almost sells itself. If they have to hire a guy and pay him a good comission to "push" it, the costs go up, up, up!

Are they asking a reasonble price for their services?

I thought the price for the bloodwork was a bit high, my doctor charged me $ 160 and they wanted $ 300. So that is where they make their money I guess.

Ajax is another brother who has helped me on the Over 30 board, sorry about the omission buddy, do ya forgive me ?